Christian Atsu (1992–2023)

[Wallsendmag]

As I've said all along he's stealing a living as a Premier League footballer.

 

He cost £5M, is anybody really surprised he can't cut it at this level?

 

He cost £6.75m which makes him more expensive than the likes of Dubravka and Lascelles for example.

 

Calm down Mike.  Just because we got a good deal with 1/2 players doesn't excuse the rest fact that 6.75m buys you fuck all.

 

 

Don't be such a wanker eh? I've said all along he's no good but you can't just say he's no good because he only cost x amount when we have some very good players that cost less than him.

 

If you can't understand that you're thicker than  I first gave you credit for.

[Guest neesy111]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

[Wallsendmag]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

 

:lol:

 

All I'm saying is that you can't automatically just say he's going to be shite when the likes of Dubravka, Lascelles, Yedlin and Fernandez cost less than him and are all good or reasonable standard PL players.

 

Obviously you don't have the intelligence to grasp that, and that's fair enough. Enjoy your day.

[mrmojorisin75]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

 

:lol:

 

All I'm saying is that you can't automatically just say he's going to be shite when the likes of Dubravka, Lascelles, Yedlin and Fernandez cost less than him and are all good or reasonable standard PL players.

 

Obviously you don't have the intelligence to grasp that, and that's fair enough. Enjoy your day.

 

your point is pretty shit though, because players like dubs & lascelles are the absolute exception at this level so they're the anomaly, not atsu

[UncleBingo]

As I've said all along he's stealing a living as a Premier League footballer.

 

He cost £5M, is anybody really surprised he can't cut it at this level?

 

He cost £6.75m which makes him more expensive than the likes of Dubravka and Lascelles for example.

 

Fair point, but given what players go for nowadays, you're doing very well to get a PL standard player for that sort of outlay. It's Championship money.

[mrmojorisin75]

As I've said all along he's stealing a living as a Premier League footballer.

 

He cost £5M, is anybody really surprised he can't cut it at this level?

 

He cost £6.75m which makes him more expensive than the likes of Dubravka and Lascelles for example.

 

Fair point, but given what players go for nowadays, you're doing very well to get a PL standard player for that sort of outlay. It's Championship money.

 

it's barely even that these days

[Wallsendmag]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

 

:lol:

 

All I'm saying is that you can't automatically just say he's going to be shite when the likes of Dubravka, Lascelles, Yedlin and Fernandez cost less than him and are all good or reasonable standard PL players.

 

Obviously you don't have the intelligence to grasp that, and that's fair enough. Enjoy your day.

 

your point is pretty shit though, because players like dubs & lascelles are the absolute exception at this level so they're the anomaly, not atsu

 

I've just named 4 players who cost less than him in our starting XI who can hold their own in this league. Yes the more you spend the better quality you can bring in but you can't just say, well he was always going to be hopeless because he only cost X amount. It's not that simplistic.

[Wallsendmag]

As I've said all along he's stealing a living as a Premier League footballer.

 

He cost £5M, is anybody really surprised he can't cut it at this level?

 

He cost £6.75m which makes him more expensive than the likes of Dubravka and Lascelles for example.

 

Fair point, but given what players go for nowadays, you're doing very well to get a PL standard player for that sort of outlay. It's Championship money.

 

Agree and if you're shopping at that end of the market more often than not they won't be good enough for this level but I think it's giving the player a get out clause for being hopeless, not to mention his lack of any sort of application when he plays, when some of his team mates cost less than him and are doing reasonably well.

[mrmojorisin75]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

 

:lol:

 

All I'm saying is that you can't automatically just say he's going to be shite when the likes of Dubravka, Lascelles, Yedlin and Fernandez cost less than him and are all good or reasonable standard PL players.

 

Obviously you don't have the intelligence to grasp that, and that's fair enough. Enjoy your day.

 

your point is pretty shit though, because players like dubs & lascelles are the absolute exception at this level so they're the anomaly, not atsu

 

I've just named 4 players who cost less than him in our starting XI who can hold their own in this league. Yes the more you spend the better quality you can bring in but you can't just say, well he was always going to be hopeless because he only cost X amount. It's not that simplistic.

 

i'm absolutely baffled at the point you're trying to make tbh

 

signings of this value will be gambles, some will work some won't...atsu was decent in the champo and we signed him gambling he'd hold his own in the prem and he can't except in the odd flash here and there

 

we paid champo money and got a champo player, that's the start and end of it

[Wallsendmag]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

 

:lol:

 

All I'm saying is that you can't automatically just say he's going to be shite when the likes of Dubravka, Lascelles, Yedlin and Fernandez cost less than him and are all good or reasonable standard PL players.

 

Obviously you don't have the intelligence to grasp that, and that's fair enough. Enjoy your day.

 

your point is pretty shit though, because players like dubs & lascelles are the absolute exception at this level so they're the anomaly, not atsu

 

I've just named 4 players who cost less than him in our starting XI who can hold their own in this league. Yes the more you spend the better quality you can bring in but you can't just say, well he was always going to be hopeless because he only cost X amount. It's not that simplistic.

 

i'm absolutely baffled at the point you're trying to make tbh

 

signings of this value will be gambles, some will work some won't...atsu was decent in the champo and we signed him gambling he'd hold his own in the prem and he can't except in the odd flash here and there

 

we paid champo money and got a champo player, that's the start and end of it

 

The point is pretty straightforward. Just because you pay £6.75m for a player doesn't excuse the fact that he's totally useless, doesn't seem to apply himself in games, runs down blind alleys and just passes the ball anywhere, whether there's a team mate in the general direction or not.

 

Saying well what did you expect for what we paid for him doesn't really wash when over half our side (who put in a very decent performance for an hour yesterday) cost less than him.

[mrmojorisin75]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

 

:lol:

 

All I'm saying is that you can't automatically just say he's going to be shite when the likes of Dubravka, Lascelles, Yedlin and Fernandez cost less than him and are all good or reasonable standard PL players.

 

Obviously you don't have the intelligence to grasp that, and that's fair enough. Enjoy your day.

 

your point is pretty shit though, because players like dubs & lascelles are the absolute exception at this level so they're the anomaly, not atsu

 

I've just named 4 players who cost less than him in our starting XI who can hold their own in this league. Yes the more you spend the better quality you can bring in but you can't just say, well he was always going to be hopeless because he only cost X amount. It's not that simplistic.

 

i'm absolutely baffled at the point you're trying to make tbh

 

signings of this value will be gambles, some will work some won't...atsu was decent in the champo and we signed him gambling he'd hold his own in the prem and he can't except in the odd flash here and there

 

we paid champo money and got a champo player, that's the start and end of it

 

The point is pretty straightforward. Just because you pay £6.75m for a player doesn't excuse the fact that he's totally useless, doesn't seem to apply himself in games, runs down blind alleys and just passes the ball anywhere, whether there's a team mate in the general direction or not.

 

Saying well what did you expect for what we paid for him doesn't really wash when over half our side (who put in a very decent performance for an hour yesterday) cost less than him.

 

yeah gambles, we all get it

[tinoasprilla]

When he broke in the second half and failed to pass it seven yards to Shelvey. You could see exactly what was going to happen before it did.  Tragically bad. I can't believe Aaron's or Roberts didn't deserve a chance ahead of this guy

[Pilko]

You're the biggest wanker on the forum so fuck off.

 

:lol:

[Happinesstan]

When he broke in the second half and failed to pass it seven yards to Shelvey. You could see exactly what was going to happen before it did.  Tragically bad. I can't believe Aaron's or Roberts didn't deserve a chance ahead of this guy

 

It looked terrible but, and I've only seen it once, it looked to me as if Shelvey changes his run just as Atsu played the ball. It looked to me like Shelvey was charging into the space in front (where Atsu played it) but then switched.

[sugoinufc]

His performance yesterday was a disgrace!

 

At least he should be able to fight...he is just jogging around making a foul of himself.

 

 

[Heron]

He is by far and a way Newcastle's worst player in the first team squad.

[Guest dabe]

He is by far and a way Newcastle's worst player in the first team squad.

 

Manquillo.

[Heron]

At least Manquillo has some sort of brain.

[Bimpy474]

At least Manquillo has some sort of brain.

 

Unfortunately it resides in his anus.

[Guest dabe]

At least Manquillo has some sort of brain.

 

Debatable imo but ultimately pointless, such is our squad, it really is not fit for purpose.

[Heron]

Aye - I don't like criticising those doing their best tbf. Which I feel our squad does. Just so frustrating.

[Guest firetotheworks]

It just shows how much a player is judged on their last performance. Manquillo was fine yesterday, Atsu was terrible, and suddenly Atsu's our worst player.

 

I feel weird even criticising the players when the problem is clearly the choice that lead to players of that level being signed, and rarely is the problem their own effort and application.

[Heron]

It just shows how much a player is judged on their last performance. Manquillo was fine yesterday, Atsu was terrible, and suddenly Atsu's our worst player.

 

I feel weird even criticising the players when the problem is clearly the choice that lead to players of that level being signed, and rarely is the problem their own effort and application.

 

I've always thought Atsu was fairly terrible mind. He makes the wrong decisions like all the time, and very rarely shows anything other than pace.

I agree with the rest though

[Bimpy474]

I never really think a player isn't trying their best, some of ours like Atsu, Manquillo, Clark, Darlow and such are not good enough, and why Rafa wanted money to spend on better players who make better decisions, who would bring better quality.

[Guest firetotheworks]

It just shows how much a player is judged on their last performance. Manquillo was fine yesterday, Atsu was terrible, and suddenly Atsu's our worst player.

 

I feel weird even criticising the players when the problem is clearly the choice that lead to players of that level being signed, and rarely is the problem their own effort and application.

 

I've always thought Atsu was fairly terrible mind. He makes the wrong decisions like all the time, and very rarely shows anything other than pace.

I agree with the rest though

 

I liked him in the Championship, but agree that this is beyond his level. As with a lot of them, they're putting the work in but they're just not good enough.

 

I'm hoping Muto and Perez can get something going, because we'll really need a spine that extends further than Dubravka, Lascelles, Shelvey if we're gonna stay up.