triggs Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Then they should be made public. Exactly. If they are going to use it then the viewer and fans (in stadiums with a big screen) should get all the angles and also the discussion between the video ref and normal ref should be heard on the telly I'm gonna be sick. Why? If they're going to use it the thought process of the video refs needs to be heard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 The whole discussion now surrounds some shite technology. What a vile, sadistic system. Keep the sport pure. Pretty hard to reconcile this with the vitriol that gets spewed at the refs each weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Then they should be made public. Exactly. If they are going to use it then the viewer and fans (in stadiums with a big screen) should get all the angles and also the discussion between the video ref and normal ref should be heard on the telly I'm gonna be sick. Why? it would make the public understand how these decisions are made and make the system transparent. The amount of protection referees get is insane tbh, they should be made to TV interviews after games imo, and if they make a mistake, own up to it and just say why they made the decision they did, people would instantly be much more understanding to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Then they should be made public. Exactly. If they are going to use it then the viewer and fans (in stadiums with a big screen) should get all the angles and also the discussion between the video ref and normal ref should be heard on the telly I'm gonna be sick. Why? it would make the public understand how these decisions are made and make the system transparent. Well, on a fundamental level I don't believe there's any need for 'VAR', but specifically regarding the listenable discussion - I'd rather minimise anything that turns the sport into more of a popcorn flick. Its better than everyone just standing around not having a clue what's going on for a minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Then they should be made public. Exactly. If they are going to use it then the viewer and fans (in stadiums with a big screen) should get all the angles and also the discussion between the video ref and normal ref should be heard on the telly I'm gonna be sick. Why? it would make the public understand how these decisions are made and make the system transparent. The amount of protection referees get is insane tbh, they should be made to TV interviews after games imo, and if they make a mistake, own up to it and just say why they made the decision they did, people would instantly be much more understanding to them. Referees in other sports don't do TV interviews, why the hell should football do it? It actually would undermine them. Also they don't get an insane amount of protection, football is played such a pace now that it's terribly hard for them to interpret a situation in a split second and make a decision they are completely happy with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 https://twitter.com/mc_of_a/status/876516536483184640 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Not bothered personally. Justice for the shit call to rule out the Cameroon goal earlier Aye it's obviously offside, it never needed to be perfect though. That shite isn't good for the game. So it's ok for tight offside's to be incorrectly called? It always has been, for over a hundred years, so yeah. There's a point where too much technological advancement is pushed into the game and based off that goal this is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Also, Mhmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Not bothered personally. Justice for the shit call to rule out the Cameroon goal earlier Aye it's obviously offside, it never needed to be perfect though. That shite isn't good for the game. Eh? You're either offside or you're not. I don't think you've understood what I've said there like, the process never needed to be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Which process? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I was actually for this too btw But howay man, we cannot have that shite every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Not bothered personally. Justice for the s*** call to rule out the Cameroon goal earlier Aye it's obviously offside, it never needed to be perfect though. That s**** isn't good for the game. So it's ok for tight offside's to be incorrectly called? Ive always maintained yes. End of the day offside was only brought in to stop goal hanging. If a defence is going to live off an offside trap which ultimately shrinks the game then I say let them die by the sword occasionally. Attacking team should always get the benefit of the doubt if there is any. Not followed the full thread but with regards to that image posted I'd want that to be deemed onside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Which process? The process of assessing whether play is offside. The one we used before this was introduced. e the linesman's decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Not bothered personally. Justice for the s*** call to rule out the Cameroon goal earlier Aye it's obviously offside, it never needed to be perfect though. That s**** isn't good for the game. So it's ok for tight offside's to be incorrectly called? Ive always maintained yes. End of the day offside was only brought in to stop goal hanging. If a defence is going to live off an offside trap which ultimately shrinks the game then I say let them die by the sword occasionally. Attacking team should always get the benefit of the doubt if there is any. Not followed the full thread but with regards to that image posted I'd want that to be deemed onside. :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I was actually for this too btw But howay man, we cannot have that shite every week. Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Not bothered personally. Justice for the s*** call to rule out the Cameroon goal earlier Aye it's obviously offside, it never needed to be perfect though. That s**** isn't good for the game. So it's ok for tight offside's to be incorrectly called? Ive always maintained yes. End of the day offside was only brought in to stop goal hanging. If a defence is going to live off an offside trap which ultimately shrinks the game then I say let them die by the sword occasionally. Attacking team should always get the benefit of the doubt if there is any. Not followed the full thread but with regards to that image posted I'd want that to be deemed onside. So really your problem is with the offside rule, not VAR. You're basically suggesting any part level with a defender = onside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I do think they're going to be rolling out all this tech way too quickly. Focus on goal line tech for now and work out all the kinks before introducing anything more, if at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 No the issue is with reversing decisions regularly, it cannot be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I do think they're going to be rolling out all this tech way too quickly. Focus on goal line tech for now and work out all the kinks before introducing anything more, if at all. This. It should be started on only certain points of action and also on decisions where it's black or white decision. It was never going to be perfect to start with, this is the reason why it's being trialled. Referee's and officials need help, other sports have realised it. Funnily enough, those sports also respect their officials a lot more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Video refs have way more angles than the broadcasters have btw Then they should be made public. Exactly. If they are going to use it then the viewer and fans (in stadiums with a big screen) should get all the angles and also the discussion between the video ref and normal ref should be heard on the telly I'm gonna be sick. Why? If they're going to use it the thought process of the video refs needs to be heard I'd love to hear the conversation between Stroud and his assistants that resulted in the goal kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 The beauty of football is a lot of it is subjective. We don't need another layer of shit decisions and minute long delays all owa the shop. Wank technology introduced to make lesser sports more interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 No the issue is with reversing decisions regularly, it cannot be good. Fair enough, 's all opinions and that. For me it's fine, the correct decision comes before a minute of waiting. If they show the video refs, or what they're seeing, the short wait we have won't even feel like a wait. By the time the celebrations are done and players are back in their half ready for kick off, the decision can be done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 The beauty of football is a lot of it is subjective. We don't need another layer of shit decisions and minute long delays all owa the shop. Wank technology introduced to make lesser sports more interesting. Time from the ball going in the net to kick off is probably more than a minute currently anyway. Where's the delay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 The beauty of football is a lot of it is subjective. We don't need another layer of shit decisions and minute long delays all owa the shop. Wank technology introduced to make lesser sports more interesting. Or they move with the times and the improving technology better then football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 People do realise this VAR is being trialled to actual find all the issues with the system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 What's going to happen with offsides? Will the ref just not blow the whistle for them until the game is dead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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