Stifler Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I find it condescending when people seriously debate how well the women's team would do compared to the men's teams. We shouldn't be thinking of the comparison, the fact women are playing and enjoying the game is all that matters. With it becoming more popular and getting decent TV coverage they now have an opportunity to make a name for themselves in the game as well. We shouldn't be thinking 'Would she be able to do that against random male players?' Instead we should be thinking 'Can she become an inspiration to girls who want to get into the game?' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I find it condescending when people seriously debate how well the women's team would do compared to the men's teams. We shouldn't be thinking of the comparison, the fact women are playing and enjoying the game is all that matters. With it becoming more popular and getting decent TV coverage they now have an opportunity now to make a name for themselves in the game as well. We shouldn't be thinking 'Would she be able to that against random male players?' Instead we should be thinking 'Can she become an inspiration to girls who want to get into the game?' Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Sexual dimorphism exists ffs. Even just "on average" men are faster, stronger and have more physical endurance than women. When you start talking about people who've turned their physicality into a career the gap widens. They'd get absolutely mullered by any half organized men's side over 90 minutes. Yeah, this is a point that people fail to see. I'm all for females being on the touch line as a manager, as a referee or lineswoman. Having mixed gender's on the pitch though just wouldn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Sexual dimorphism exists ffs. Even just "on average" men are faster, stronger and have more physical endurance than women. When you start talking about people who've turned their physicality into a career the gap widens. They'd get absolutely mullered by any half organized men's side over 90 minutes. Can see the argument about physicality etc. A world class female sprinter for example would get thrashed by a poor male Commonwealth Games level sprinter. When it comes to running I read that women (if men are 100%) are 90% of 100%. So for every 100 seconds you can add 10 seconds to a female. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Sexual dimorphism exists ffs. Even just "on average" men are faster, stronger and have more physical endurance than women. When you start talking about people who've turned their physicality into a career the gap widens. They'd get absolutely mullered by any half organized men's side over 90 minutes. Yeah, this is a point that people fail to see. I'm all for females being on the touch line as a manager, as a referee or lineswoman. Having mixed gender's on the pitch though just wouldn't work. I'd start Alex Morgan over Adam Armstrong, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Sexual dimorphism exists ffs. Even just "on average" men are faster, stronger and have more physical endurance than women. When you start talking about people who've turned their physicality into a career the gap widens. They'd get absolutely mullered by any half organized men's side over 90 minutes. Can see the argument about physicality etc. A world class female sprinter for example would get thrashed by a poor male Commonwealth Games level sprinter. When it comes to running I read that women (if men are 100%) are 90% of 100%. So for every 100 seconds you can add 10 seconds to a female. *11.1secs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wasn't this tried in tennis years ago, Jimmy Connors or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wasn't this tried in tennis years ago, Jimmy Connors or something? It was, think the woman won as well. Can't say for sure though. Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis) 2-1 to the men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wasn't this tried in tennis years ago, Jimmy Connors or something? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters most poignantly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wasn't this tried in tennis years ago, Jimmy Connors or something? It was, think the woman won as well. Can't say for sure though. Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis) 2-1 to the men. Billie Jean King in her prime against a 55 year old former champion I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wasn't this tried in tennis years ago, Jimmy Connors or something? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters most poignantly There's no way to avoid Trump, of course he's been involved in these things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 This a major shock or not in ladies football? had no idea Germany won it 7 times and have no idea idea if Denmark/Austria are ranked better then ours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 This a major shock or not in ladies football? had no idea Germany won it 7 times and have no idea idea if Denmark/Austria are ranked better then ours England is ranked fifth in the FIFA rankings iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cclay Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I find it condescending when people seriously debate how well the women's team would do compared to the men's teams. We shouldn't be thinking of the comparison, the fact women are playing and enjoying the game is all that matters. With it becoming more popular and getting decent TV coverage they now have an opportunity now to make a name for themselves in the game as well. We shouldn't be thinking 'Would she be able to that against random male players?' Instead we should be thinking 'Can she become an inspiration to girls who want to get into the game?' Yep. I find it condescending when people seriously debate how well the women's team would do compared to the men's teams. We shouldn't be thinking of the comparison, the fact women are playing and enjoying the game is all that matters. With it becoming more popular and getting decent TV coverage they now have an opportunity to make a name for themselves in the game as well. We shouldn't be thinking 'Would she be able to do that against random male players?' Instead we should be thinking 'Can she become an inspiration to girls who want to get into the game?' As someone who teaches girls' football, with both Manchester United and City players in the team, that's spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just remembered that mad cunt Perugia owner who wanted to sign a woman for the men's team and had forgot he also sacked a South Korean for knocking Italy out of the World Cup About the female footballer thing: "Hanna Ljungberg came as close as discussing terms but unfortunately we never got to witness this idea reaching the field as the FIGC quickly closed the supposed loophole. Gaucci lost his temper and threatened to sign a horse instead, again pointing out it wasn't against the rules! But this idea (thankfully) fell by the wayside, and just a few months later he unveiled his newest signing – Saadi al-Gaddafi, the son of Libyan leader Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi." http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2011/2/10/luciano-gaucci-mad-bad-and-dangerous-to-know.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I find it condescending when people seriously debate how well the women's team would do compared to the men's teams. We shouldn't be thinking of the comparison, the fact women are playing and enjoying the game is all that matters. With it becoming more popular and getting decent TV coverage they now have an opportunity to make a name for themselves in the game as well. We shouldn't be thinking 'Would she be able to do that against random male players?' Instead we should be thinking 'Can she become an inspiration to girls who want to get into the game?' And when the England women's football/cricket/rugby teams are successful it shouldn't be used as a tool to sneer at the men's teams. The sneer goes both ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just remembered that mad cunt Perugia owner who wanted to sign a woman for the men's team and had forgot he also sacked a South Korean for knocking Italy out of the World Cup About the female footballer thing: "Hanna Ljungberg came as close as discussing terms but unfortunately we never got to witness this idea reaching the field as the FIGC quickly closed the supposed loophole. Gaucci lost his temper and threatened to sign a horse instead, again pointing out it wasn't against the rules! But this idea (thankfully) fell by the wayside, and just a few months later he unveiled his newest signing – Saadi al-Gaddafi, the son of Libyan leader Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi." http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2011/2/10/luciano-gaucci-mad-bad-and-dangerous-to-know.html I remember that mad cunt How did it go with the Korean after he was let go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just remembered that mad cunt Perugia owner who wanted to sign a woman for the men's team and had forgot he also sacked a South Korean for knocking Italy out of the World Cup About the female footballer thing: "Hanna Ljungberg came as close as discussing terms but unfortunately we never got to witness this idea reaching the field as the FIGC quickly closed the supposed loophole. Gaucci lost his temper and threatened to sign a horse instead, again pointing out it wasn't against the rules! But this idea (thankfully) fell by the wayside, and just a few months later he unveiled his newest signing – Saadi al-Gaddafi, the son of Libyan leader Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi." http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2011/2/10/luciano-gaucci-mad-bad-and-dangerous-to-know.html I remember that mad cunt How did it go with the Korean after he was let go? Says there he never returned "I have no intention of paying a salary to someone who has ruined Italian football. That man will not return to our team. I am outraged! He started playing phenomenally only when it came to playing Italy. I am a nationalist and his behaviour is not only an incomprehensible wound to my Italian pride, but also an offence to a country which two years ago had openly welcomed him." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest firetotheworks Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 FWIW, I don't think there's any reason why a woman couldn't play in the men's game. And yes, obviously speed, physicality, height etc come into it. To that I have two words; Leon Britton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Gaucci the bloke was off his head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Gaddafi's son is basically best friends with Jay Bothroyd as well. edit: "Saadi is a friend of mine. I saw him about 10 months ago when he was in London. All this drama. His dad is obviously a tyrant and he dictated over his countrymen through fear but Saadi was never like that. He was always friendly and polite. When he bought his house in Hampstead he asked me what I thought of it. He even came to my wedding. Obviously he used to have parties and stuff and he would invite me to Cannes to watch the Grand Prix. For his birthday he would fly me over on his plane. People who don’t know him might say he’s like this or like that or like his dad, but I’ve never seen that. I looked at him like a friend. He wasn't the best [footballer] but he did it as a hobby. He's a billionaire but it was something he wanted to do. He wanted to play football, to come in every day and train. And he did it, to be fair. He never expected any special treatment. But obviously there were his bodyguards around. It is very strange for me. People will say to me, 'how can you be friends with this guy?' But you can only judge people on how you see them. He was always nice to me. I never met his brothers or his dad, they must be completely different. It has been weird. He paid for my honeymoon. He asked me what we were doing for it and I told him we hadn’t decided yet. So he said he’d sort something out for me. He paid for us to go to LA for a week and then on to Hawaii. All first-class travel and top hotels. It was very generous. That's the side I see of him. I don’t see the other side. I don’t know it. There's always corruption where there's power, so you never know. His country want him back to prosecute him but they want to kill him apparently. It's all politics and I don’t really know about it. I just know that innocent people should never get hurt." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Remember when Bothroyd was capped by England? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/30/arsenal-sevilla-match-report-emirates-cup What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/30/arsenal-sevilla-match-report-emirates-cup What? Madness. The rules must have been published before the tournament, but couldn't help thinking who sponsors Arsenal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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