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I hope you all understand that the statement

 

"black players often get labelled with X even if Y is prominent or X isn't particularly relevant"

 

Does not mean

 

"white players are never labelled with X".

 

Similarly because black players are always labelled as X, doesn't mean a black player doesn't have those attributes. So quit jumping down everyone's throat and claiming racism every fucking time someone says a black player is fast/strong. It's really tiresome and undermines an actual issue.

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Sprinters, players with that physique liable to get a thigh strain... comparison to Usain Bolt.....

Name a well known white sprinter. Name any  sprinter more well known than Usain Bolt. Deny that Valencia has a sprinter's physique.

 

Exactly what's the problem?

 

LOL

I shouldn't evem respond to you, you originally said Valencia who hasn't played for West Ham for about a year.

 

Usain Bolt is 6'5, Antonio 5'9.  Average height of successful sprinters is 6 foot.. 5'9 is on the shortest end for a sprinter and not exactly typical. Antonio has a short stocky build - no he doesn't have a sprinters physique. He looks too chubby.

 

His physique is much closer to Eden Hazard's. I don't think you'll hear Hazard compared to Usain Bolt.

 

This comparison came about because Antonio lad was running and pulled his thigh muscle.

I made a mistake. Antonio at West Ham, Valencia at West Ham, Antonio Valencia. Mistakes happen, I've no problem admitting that.

 

If you honestly think Antonio and Hazard have comparable physiques though, I dunno what to say. Antonio definitely has what I would describe as a sprinter's physique, irrespective of height. I see absolutely no problem with saying that.

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I hope you all understand that the statement

 

"black players often get labelled with X even if Y is prominent or X isn't particularly relevant"

 

Does not mean

 

"white players are never labelled with X".

 

Similarly because black players are always labelled as X, doesn't mean a black player doesn't have those attributes. So quit jumping down everyone's throat and claiming racism every f***ing time someone says a black player is fast/strong. It's really tiresome and undermines an actual issue.

 

I've literally never claimed racism, i've never said that word in relation to this. I'll save the big bad R-word for more pressing issues.

 

I've said it's tiresome when commentators bang on about power / beast / whatever when it is not relevant or other skills are more prominent to black players. Akin to a hard working player not getting the plaudits they deserve around skill and technique because of a focus on work-rate.

 

I'm never ever going to let anyone tell me what I should and shouldn't talk about in regards to anything to do with black people. Never.

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Think Harry Kane is the first player since Shearer retired that I can genuinely see beating Shearers goal scoring record - if he stays at Tottenham he'll do it

 

Agree, the lad is top class on his day, which is more often than not.

I think he will move abroad myself. \I can't see him staying at Spurs, I think this team will break up after they win nowt again this season.

It's whether he ends up at a Manchester club or in Spain for me.

 

Hope it is Spain personally (for England as well as protecting Shearers record.)

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