triggs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Will be interesting to see how Kane and Spurs as a whole get on against Real Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 It's pretty funny like as the link to this forum that used to be on my homepage took me to a page in an old Other Games thread where he was being absolutely slaughtered for being absolutely shite I think even Leffe didn't rate him too much. I know he was young but he seemed to pretty much turn world class overnight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Have to wait till he does it in the latter stages of the Champions League to say that I think him doing it against the English teams who regularly get the latter stages is a fair indication of what he's capable of against the non-English teams in the latter stages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Have to wait till he does it in the latter stages of the Champions League to say that I think him doing it against the English teams who regularly get the latter stages is a fair indication of what he's capable of against the non-English teams in the latter stages. What English teams regularly get to the latter stages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 It's pretty funny like as the link to this forum that used to be on my homepage took me to a page in an old Other Games thread where he was being absolutely slaughtered for being absolutely shite I think even Leffe didn't rate him too much. I know he was young but he seemed to pretty much turn world class overnight. Even after his first season I thought he'd drift away once defenders worked out what he was doing. Even now I'm surprised by him because most of what he does looks really basic, but he's just so good at the fundamentals of the game in the same way that Shearer was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Will be interesting to see how Kane and Spurs as a whole get on against Real Madrid I don't think that's fair like, we can safely say Shearer is one of the greatest English strikers ever, perhaps the greatest, without him doing it against Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Will be interesting to see how Kane and Spurs as a whole get on against Real Madrid He'll get to meet his future teammates before next summers move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Will be interesting to see how Kane and Spurs as a whole get on against Real Madrid I don't think that's fair like, we can safely say Shearer is one of the greatest English strikers ever, perhaps the greatest, without him doing it against Madrid. Means Tino Asprilla is one of the best strikers of all time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Have to wait till he does it in the latter stages of the Champions League to say that I think him doing it against the English teams who regularly get the latter stages is a fair indication of what he's capable of against the non-English teams in the latter stages. What English teams regularly get to the latter stages? Here we go. All of them generally get beyond the group stages. If you're talking semi finals and the final, Spurs aren't getting there or competing enough for him to be able to prove anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Just shows how important your off the ball work is at the top level. He's absolutely fantastic at making runs off the ball to create space for those behind him and himself. Which makes him ridiculously dangerous. In terms of that particular skillset he's the best in the league by far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Will be interesting to see how Kane and Spurs as a whole get on against Real Madrid I don't think that's fair like, we can safely say Shearer is one of the greatest English strikers ever, perhaps the greatest, without him doing it against Madrid. I was just saying in general it will be interesting to see how he gets on. He doesn't specifically have to be brilliant against them although I think to be called the best striker in the world he has to prove it on the biggest stage against the best teams and this season looks like the time he might do just that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Will be interesting to see how Kane and Spurs as a whole get on against Real Madrid I don't think that's fair like, we can safely say Shearer is one of the greatest English strikers ever, perhaps the greatest, without him doing it against Madrid. Of course it's fair, it's the tournament which the greats are judged on and what places them above the rest. It's why Mbappe was getting insane hype, because he was toying with the best teams around. It's not even about Madrid, Spurs went out in the Group stage last year. Getting to the KO stages would be a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Have to wait till he does it in the latter stages of the Champions League to say that I think him doing it against the English teams who regularly get the latter stages is a fair indication of what he's capable of against the non-English teams in the latter stages. What English teams regularly get to the latter stages? Here we go. All of them generally get beyond the group stages. If you're talking semi finals and the final, Spurs aren't getting there or competing enough for him to be able to prove anything. What do you mean "here we go"? Do you think the English teams over the last 5 years have been as good as Barca, Real, Atletico, Bayern, Juve? That's what I'm talking about. The English look like they'll make a bit of a comeback in Europe this season however Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Will be interesting to see how Kane and Spurs as a whole get on against Real Madrid I don't think that's fair like, we can safely say Shearer is one of the greatest English strikers ever, perhaps the greatest, without him doing it against Madrid. Of course it's fair, it's the tournament which the greats are judged on and what places them above the rest. It's why Mbappe was getting insane hype, because he was toying with the best teams around. It's not even about Madrid, Spurs went out in the Group stage last year. Getting to the KO stages would be a start. I read Triggs post wrong tbh. For some reason read it as him putting massive emphasis on this one game which obviously he never did at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I doubt anyone will break Shearer's record, you are talking insane figures. Kane is arguably the best all round centre-forward at the moment though, ridiculously good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Thought Kane had passed the 100 pl goals mark tbh, was surprised to see his tally is actually just 84 to date. Some work to do to beat Shearer's record like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Kane could do it like, he's only 24 and Shearer's record is reduced as his 23 goals before the change to the Premiership aren't counted. I think given their respected ages Kane has a massive head start and there's no signs of him slowing down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Have to wait till he does it in the latter stages of the Champions League to say that I think him doing it against the English teams who regularly get the latter stages is a fair indication of what he's capable of against the non-English teams in the latter stages. What English teams regularly get to the latter stages? Here we go. All of them generally get beyond the group stages. If you're talking semi finals and the final, Spurs aren't getting there or competing enough for him to be able to prove anything. What do you mean "here we go"? Do you think the English teams over the last 5 years have been as good as Barca, Real, Atletico, Bayern, Juve? That's what I'm talking about. The English look like they'll make a bit of a comeback in Europe this season however No I don't, but nor was that what you originally said or asked tbf. FWIW, I think it's a bit of an oddity to gauge your opinion on a player based the team they face beyond a certain point, when obviously it's a team sport. It's a bit 'Messi needs to win the world cup' for me once you get to that level, because no individual is going to overcome those teams without a team that can already compete with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I reckon Kane will do it, shows how insanely good Shearer was really considering 23 goals were before the Premier League started and also the big injuries he got Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Shearer's 260 works out on average of 20 goals a season over a 13 year period. That's what you are looking at, not only do you have to keep up that ridiculous scoring rate you have to do it for over a decade. Kane has a chance but it will be incredibly difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Have to wait till he does it in the latter stages of the Champions League to say that I think him doing it against the English teams who regularly get the latter stages is a fair indication of what he's capable of against the non-English teams in the latter stages. What English teams regularly get to the latter stages? Here we go. All of them generally get beyond the group stages. If you're talking semi finals and the final, Spurs aren't getting there or competing enough for him to be able to prove anything. What do you mean "here we go"? Do you think the English teams over the last 5 years have been as good as Barca, Real, Atletico, Bayern, Juve? That's what I'm talking about. The English look like they'll make a bit of a comeback in Europe this season however No I don't, but nor was that what you originally said or asked tbf. FWIW, I think it's a bit of an oddity to gauge your opinion on a player based the team they face beyond a certain point, when obviously it's a team sport. It's a bit 'Messi needs to win the world cup' for me once you get to that level, because no individual is going to overcome those teams without a team that can already compete with them. It's not really that, just Kane until this season had done nothing in Europe's elite competition. It's completely fair to hold off on calling someone the best till they prove it against the best imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Have to wait till he does it in the latter stages of the Champions League to say that I think him doing it against the English teams who regularly get the latter stages is a fair indication of what he's capable of against the non-English teams in the latter stages. What English teams regularly get to the latter stages? Here we go. All of them generally get beyond the group stages. If you're talking semi finals and the final, Spurs aren't getting there or competing enough for him to be able to prove anything. What do you mean "here we go"? Do you think the English teams over the last 5 years have been as good as Barca, Real, Atletico, Bayern, Juve? That's what I'm talking about. The English look like they'll make a bit of a comeback in Europe this season however No I don't, but nor was that what you originally said or asked tbf. FWIW, I think it's a bit of an oddity to gauge your opinion on a player based the team they face beyond a certain point, when obviously it's a team sport. It's a bit 'Messi needs to win the world cup' for me once you get to that level, because no individual is going to overcome those teams without a team that can already compete with them. Those five teams have been consistently in the latter stages of the Champions League in recent years. No English team has so no it's not the same as just doing it against the English teams in the PL up until this season anyway. That was my point. I think Spurs are capable of competing with any team in Europe and not getting embarrassed. A striker should of course be judged by what they do up against the best defenders when they won't get as much space or as many chances. It's common sense when you are talking about how to rate a player who you think is the best in the world in their position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I doubt anyone will break Shearer's record, you are talking insane figures. Kane is arguably the best all round centre-forward at the moment though, ridiculously good. Shearer's record isn't an insane figure anymore like. We're into the era of a goal a game strikers now and Kane could average 18 goals a season from now until 2027 and beat the record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Terrible that by Alli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Such a prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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