Guest neesy111 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Seems like a nice lad, but he's wank. Paying any fee for him was a mistake, but £12m+ takes the piss. No way we'll see any return on that investment - I've already written him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Very frustrating that his brother starts every week and is always involved in the highlites. Shots off, assists, crosses. Yeah, I was really excited when we signed him, as I had been crushing FM with the guy, until I realized we signed the wrong fucking brother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 He hasn't got it mentally to be half as good as he should be. Not sure why anyone is still clinging on to any sort of hope at this stage either. He's a poorer Darren Ambrose, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 We should stop signing players who have brothers! First De Jong and now Murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Sammy and Shola being the exception to the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Wow, nowt like writing someone off. There’s clearly a good player in there and he’s a confidence player. Rafa needs to find a way to bring his game along. Having behind Atsu in the picking order isn’t the answer that’s for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 We need a whole new set of wingers really. They're vital in counterattacking which seems to be what we're insistent on doing, yet none of ours really suit that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Think he’ll go to someone like Villa, Stoke, Derby in the summer for £8-10m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 As always, peoe complaining about his fee are forgetting that £12m these days is like £4m from a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 As always, peoe complaining about his fee are forgetting that £12m these days is like £4m from a few years ago. So he could be compared to either Ben Arfa, or Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Wow, nowt like writing someone off. There’s clearly a good player in there and he’s a confidence player. Rafa needs to find a way to bring his game along. Having behind Atsu in the picking order isn’t the answer that’s for sure. So we're not allowed to write off someone who looks shite these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Think he’ll go to someone like Villa, Stoke, Derby in the summer for £8-10m. I really hope so. £8m for him would be like turning water into wine. A bit of a bigger shame is the decline of Ritchie. I used to think he was decent, but he seems to have lost his attacking qualities. We're now stuck with a bunch of completely unthreatening wingers and no number 10. It's no wonder we struggle for goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I'm writing him off, he's shite. Atsu gets games ahead of him and he's championship tier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I could see Warnock stumping up for him to play on the opposite wing to his brother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I'm writing him off, he's shite. Atsu gets games ahead of him and he's championship tier. He's not up to it. He might get better one day, but unfortunately we haven't been in a position to give inferior players a run in the side; constantly fighting for our lives and no cup runs. Should be out on loan tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Just another decent prospect here who’s been swallowed up by the club/lifestyle. It’s been a long list over the years.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Just another decent prospect here who’s been swallowed up by the club/lifestyle. It’s been a long list over the years.. Is there any evidence of this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Not sure I agree Atsu should be ahead of him mind - just wait until the team has stabilised and we've hopefully won a few games. Am sure Rafa is protecting the lad and that he'll get the chance to impress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 The only defence of the lad is that I think it's difficult being a winger under Rafa. In his time at Liverpool, the best wingers he had were Kuyt, Ryan Babbel and Luis Garcia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Needs an enforced run in the team. 5-6 full games covering an injury, think people's opinion of him would change with a bit of confidence and exposure in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 We definitely can't afford playing someone who'll hold the team back for 5-6 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 We definitely can't afford playing someone who'll hold the team back for 5-6 games. Diame, Joselu, Ritchie, Kenedy, Ayoze have all been afforded that luxury. But I get what you're saying, however if it's forced upon us the pressure would be off and he may be given a bit more leeway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Giving players like Diame, Joselu, Perez and Murphy runs of games is why we've been struggling. Having 3/4 passengers in our front 6 is why we have been struggling for goals. Rafa needs to work out his best team and just stick with it. Nothing players like Murphy aren't worth risking games over. That transfer fee can just be written off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, but players like Murphy and indeed Atsu will always struggle to perform if they play in fits in starts, especially as wingers or wide players. With Murphy he has enough qualities at this level (for us anyway) and if he had a run in the team like Ritchie has I dare see we would be seeing those qualities much more often and would benefit from that over what Ritchie gives us. It seems like his only path to regular first-team football will come from a long-term injury to someone, however, because even when he has come on and did something good, he’s either been dropped altogether or back on the bench. I’m convinced he was more of an Ashley buy which Rafa was happy with as one of the future thinking he’d be getting enough money to strengthen with first-team players, that obviously never happened. If he could spend that 12m again I guarantee someone like Murphy wouldn’t be on any list of his. I like him though and think he has someone about him and would like to see him replace Ritchie who is a safer pick in the team because he works hard, is disciplined defensively and knows Rafa’s tactics inside out to stick to them. He’s played a key role in the team, but we need more going forward and Murphy in time can easily become as hard working, displined and tactically switched on. I’d far rather we bring on Ritchie in place of Murphy late on to see out games instead of relying on a young player with zero form or confidence to produce some magic in a limited time because others starting haven’t or we suddenly need some as we trail a lead needing a goal to get back into the game or need a goal to win a game. That goal he scored against Man City highlighted what he can do and unless he gets a run of games it’s far too simplistic to just say he’s not good enough and never will be, not when we rely on a Ritchie to be good enough who we know isn’t good enough. Working hard, being displined and tactically switched on are not qualities that should be put above footballing skills, they are things a good coach can instill in any player. Ritchie is one paced, can’t dribble and when not a threat from set play, is hardly a threat in the formal 3rd or to his full-back apoonent, Yedlin is much more of a threat and he plays behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 He played well mid last season, I still believe he's got enough to be a starter for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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