Nine Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 11 minutes ago, gjohnson said: So how long does Murphy have to play like this before we can admit he might not actually be that bad? He’s never been that bad, he’s just not of the quality that some of our fans would like to see out wide. When we are not playing well he tends to take a lot of the criticism. Could he be upgraded? Absolutely, but im not sure it’s a necessity right now. Hes the type of player that Howe gets a lot from, although he is limited in some aspects of his game he can be utilised in specific manners that emphasise his good attributes. Just like Howe did with Almiron in the ultra press of 22/23. Edited January 26 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Checko said: Let's face it, whether you rate him as a player or not, everyone loves Jacob Murphy. When he retires we should hire him to the important backroom position of Head of Being Jacob Murphy. Head of Big Smiles Miggy to be brought back as his assistant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, mouldy_uk said: Head of Big Smiles Miggy to be brought back as his assistant Rent them out to kids parties to beat PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, gjohnson said: So how long does Murphy have to play like this before we can admit he might not actually be that bad? At least another TWELVE seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Checko said: Rent them out to kids parties to beat PSR. Callum Wilson to be the donkey, for pin the tail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, mouldy_uk said: Callum Wilson to be the donkey, for pin the tail Dear God imagine the medical bills though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, Nine said: He’s never been that bad, he’s just not of the quality that some of our fans would like to see out wide. When we are not playing well he tends to take a lot of the criticism. Could he be upgraded? Absolutely, but im not sure it’s a necessity right now. Hes the type of player that Howe gets a lot from, although he is limited in some aspects of his game he can be utilised in specific manners that emphasise his good attributes. Just like Howe did with Almiron in the ultra press of 22/23. I think it will fall back to how long can he keep getting juice out of Murphy (pun intended) and having Burn playing out of his skin. Schar is slowing a bit. But again, he has gone up a level under Howe. Along with other fringe players like Krafth who come in and never seem to let him down. It just doesn’t feel sustainable and moving forward. Players like Burn, Schar and Murphy will be better as rotation options. With higher quality and younger players coming in. I’m not even trying to diminish their efforts. They’ve been amazing for a lot of the time since Howe arrived. But I just think that is the reality of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I think it will fall back to how long can he keep getting juice out of Murphy (pun intended) and having Burn playing out of his skin. Schar is slowing a bit. But again, he has gone up a level under Howe. Along with other fringe players like Krafth who come in and never seem to let him down. It just doesn’t feel sustainable and moving forward. Players like Burn, Schar and Murphy will be better as rotation options. With higher quality and younger players coming in. I’m not even trying to diminish their efforts. They’ve been amazing for a lot of the time since Howe arrived. But I just think that is the reality of it. I agree with you, and it is the reality. Murphy’s current form isn’t likely to be sustainable just as Miggys in 22/23 was never going to be. Murphy obviously isn’t ideal long term for a CL chasing side, but as Howe has proved a few times now he can squeeze enough % out of more limited players by keeping them in the team week in week out and reap the rewards. I think Murphy will be fine for the rest of season, even if his numbers do drop off some. In the summer we will address the RW I’m fairly certain, but I wouldn’t be so sure whoever is signed will displace Murphy instantly and come straight into the side. The under lying point I’m making falls back to the tired PSR conversation as always. Edited January 26 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I’ve just seen his ball for Isak’s second goal for the first time. 🔥 Having seen him for a few years now, I genuinely wouldn’t have thought he had that in him but his combination play with Isak is exceptional and shows a lot of intelligence. Long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Feel the difference with Murphy on the wing, he wants to assist Isak, whereas on the oppo, Gordon would rather shoot himself than assist Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Needs a wor flags banner ASAP Edited January 27 by Slim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, Slim said: Needs a wor flags banner ASAP Needs a song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 40 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Needs a song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Actually fairly relevant since he grew up a toon fan. It was all a dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Thaz only two Jacob Murphys Two Jacob Murphys Two Jacob Muuuuurphys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 14 hours ago, Nine said: I agree with you, and it is the reality. Murphy’s current form isn’t likely to be sustainable just as Miggys in 22/23 was never going to be. Murphy obviously isn’t ideal long term for a CL chasing side, but as Howe has proved a few times now he can squeeze enough % out of more limited players by keeping them in the team week in week out and reap the rewards. I think Murphy will be fine for the rest of season, even if his numbers do drop off some. In the summer we will address the RW I’m fairly certain, but I wouldn’t be so sure whoever is signed will displace Murphy instantly and come straight into the side. The under lying point I’m making falls back to the tired PSR conversation as always. Almiron’s purple patch was based entirely on two superb footballers (Trippier and Bruno) sharing a side with him and playing perfect passes for his few attacking strengths to allow him to bag some goals. Murphy is creating goals for Isak, as well as scoring himself - because Murphy is a better and more effective footballer than Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 15 hours ago, Nine said: I agree with you, and it is the reality. Murphy’s current form isn’t likely to be sustainable just as Miggys in 22/23 was never going to be. Murphy obviously isn’t ideal long term for a CL chasing side, but as Howe has proved a few times now he can squeeze enough % out of more limited players by keeping them in the team week in week out and reap the rewards. I think Murphy will be fine for the rest of season, even if his numbers do drop off some. In the summer we will address the RW I’m fairly certain, but I wouldn’t be so sure whoever is signed will displace Murphy instantly and come straight into the side. The under lying point I’m making falls back to the tired PSR conversation as always. He's been performing at a highly productive level for over a year. His G/A ratio last season was top too. This is a fairly accurate view of what he's like as a player. In general play, he's not giving much. But in the final third, he's consistently created chances. 15 PL assists in 30 PL starts from last season to this. Evenly spread between the two seasons. This is not a Miggy Almiron purple patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 16 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: He's been performing at a highly productive level for over a year. His G/A ratio last season was top too. This is a fairly accurate view of what he's like as a player. In general play, he's not giving much. But in the final third, he's consistently created chances. 15 PL assists in 30 PL starts from last season to this. Evenly spread between the two seasons. This is not a Miggy Almiron purple patch. Sums him up perfectly tbh. I think many people have said more or less the same thing in non-graph form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 A bit more of a basic view but i do love how he strikes the ball. Knocks it out his feet and wraps his laces around it. Been unlucky cracking the woodwork a few times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, Likelylad said: A bit more of a basic view but i do love how he strikes the ball. Knocks it out his feet and wraps his laces around it. Been unlucky cracking the woodwork a few times. Was just coming here to say this myself after watching the highlights for the umpteenth time. He strikes the ball beautifully. That one off the post is just another in what's becoming a long list of agonising "fuck, I wish that had gone in"s, alongside Tonali's effort at Old Trafford most recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Was just coming here to say this myself after watching the highlights for the umpteenth time. He strikes the ball beautifully. That one off the post is just another in what's becoming a long list of agonising "fuck, I wish that had gone in"s, alongside Tonali's effort at Old Trafford most recently. Murphy has a spectacular collection of them though. Was it the Arsenal home game in 21-22 where he smacked one off a post from 25 yards and was leaping up and down in frustration afterwards? He had an amazing post to goal ratio for a few months. I always thought it kind of encapsulated him as a player. Had the brains and technique to make the shot as difficult for the goalkeeper as possible but would push it too far making the effort (almost) pointless. But if he could get a grip on that then you'd have something special. Edited January 27 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: He's been performing at a highly productive level for over a year. His G/A ratio last season was top too. This is a fairly accurate view of what he's like as a player. In general play, he's not giving much. But in the final third, he's consistently created chances. 15 PL assists in 30 PL starts from last season to this. Evenly spread between the two seasons. This is not a Miggy Almiron purple patch. Yeah, that’s fairly impressive stuff tbf. I hadn’t realised he had quite as many assists as he does, likely higher than they would be if he was not assisting Isak but solid numbers nonetheless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Almiron’s purple patch was based entirely on two superb footballers (Trippier and Bruno) sharing a side with him and playing perfect passes for his few attacking strengths to allow him to bag some goals. Murphy is creating goals for Isak, as well as scoring himself - because Murphy is a better and more effective footballer than Almiron. I don’t think anyone will argue that Almiron is a better footballer than Murphy I do feel that summary is harsh on him though, a lot of the good work on that side during 22/23 was down to the ground Almiron was able to cover for 90 mins week in week out. Edited January 27 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 He really seems to have been training that cut inside onto his left foot. Another level to his threat if that becomes a genuine option. Fair play, I used to think he was absolute dog but he's doing better than I ever thought possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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