Tooj Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Didn't Rafa bin Heskey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 In west ham game Joselu bust a gut to get up in support of the counter attack and it was his square ball into Atsu that led to the third goal so he certainly does contribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 We will look back at this in a few years and laugh. One of the worst strikers I've seen play for us. Up there with Riviere/De Jong. That De Jong shot is still trickling towards goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Didn't Rafa bin Heskey? He was already sold to Birmingham before Benitez arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Didn't Rafa bin Heskey? He was already sold to Birmingham before Benitez arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 perez and gayle should start ahead for joselu - he offers 0% in link up play, pace, goal threat etc... Rafa's tactics in England have generally always looked to have a strong target man in the side, even if they aren't scoring. Liverpool with players like Crouch and Heskey being the most obvious examples. Allows quick progression from back to front which is beneficial for us currently as we're spending a lot of the game on the back foot and don't really have the quality at this level capable of keeping possession. If you look at the selection last few games, we don't really have any defenders who are particularly comfortable on the ball. Clark loves an aimless clip forward and Lascelles tries to keep it simple. Then up front Gayle struggled with holding the ball up in the Championship, let alone the Prem. Unless we completely overhaul our playing style or squad, think we're most likely going to stick with a striker capable in the air up front. Which for all Joselu's infuriating play, means unless we sign someone on loan or Mitro somehow gets some trust back, Joselu will keep getting time. Unless Rafa was so impressed with how we played against Stoke he goes completely against all of that. f*** knows. of all our forwards he is the worst target man /keeping the ball...if he manage to keep it and find a team mate he is nowhere near the box. do not know whats going on with Mitro? But he is twice the player imo. for god sake the minions Gayle and Perez are better link up players....size isn´t everything! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just noticed that he's won the 3rd most aerial battles in the Premier League this season. I know a lot of people say he's absolutely useless, but when he's in the team we've got to be taking advantage of his aerial ability, surely? We should be getting more players around him to pick up the knockdowns or force opposition defenders into mistakes. I think the guy would be a lot more appreciated if we did. Here's the table if anyone's interested.... https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/aerial_won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just noticed that he's won the 3rd most aerial battles in the Premier League this season. I know a lot of people say he's absolutely useless, but when he's in the team we've got to be taking advantage of that his aerial ability, surely? We should be getting more players around him to pick up the knockdowns or force opposition defenders into mistakes. I think they guy would be a lot more appreciated if we did. Here's the table if anyone's interested.... https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/aerial_won Been mentioned before, but he always seems to achieve that stat. He did it in the Bundesliga and La Liga. Lejeune managed to win the most defensive aerial duels for Eibar last season too. Rafa obviously want us to play like a Pulis Stoke team in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just noticed that he's won the 3rd most aerial battles in the Premier League this season. I know a lot of people say he's absolutely useless, but when he's in the team we've got to be taking advantage of that his aerial ability, surely? We should be getting more players around him to pick up the knockdowns or force opposition defenders into mistakes. I think they guy would be a lot more appreciated if we did. Here's the table if anyone's interested.... https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/aerial_won Been mentioned before, but he always seems to achieve that stat. He did it in the Bundesliga and La Liga. Lejeune managed to win the most defensive aerial duels for Eibar last season too. Rafa obviously want us to play like a Pulis Stoke team in future. You reckon!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Didn't Rafa bin Heskey? He was already sold to Birmingham before Benitez arrived. Christ, apologies for talking shite then. He did sign Morientes though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just noticed that he's won the 3rd most aerial battles in the Premier League this season. I know a lot of people say he's absolutely useless, but when he's in the team we've got to be taking advantage of his aerial ability, surely? We should be getting more players around him to pick up the knockdowns or force opposition defenders into mistakes. I think the guy would be a lot more appreciated if we did. Here's the table if anyone's interested.... https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/aerial_won Not surprised. People talk a load of shit on here, he's a decent target man, and his link up play would be decent if he could score goals to go along with it. But he doesn't, and since the rest of our forwards are pretty goal shy as well, we need a striker who can score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just noticed that he's won the 3rd most aerial battles in the Premier League this season. I know a lot of people say he's absolutely useless, but when he's in the team we've got to be taking advantage of his aerial ability, surely? We should be getting more players around him to pick up the knockdowns or force opposition defenders into mistakes. I think the guy would be a lot more appreciated if we did. Here's the table if anyone's interested.... https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/aerial_won Not surprised. People talk a load of s*** on here, he's a decent target man, and his link up play would be decent if he could score goals to go along with it. But he doesn't, and since the rest of our forwards are pretty goal shy as well, we need a striker who can score goals. He may win a lot of aerial battles, but usually its not benefiting us as his headers wont find one of our players. Its a bit the same from throw-ins. Its hilarious/sad how many times he has tried to pass the ball back to the thrower on the first-time touch, but just ended up totally misjudging the pass and shooting it straight back over the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Just noticed that he's won the 3rd most aerial battles in the Premier League this season. I know a lot of people say he's absolutely useless, but when he's in the team we've got to be taking advantage of his aerial ability, surely? We should be getting more players around him to pick up the knockdowns or force opposition defenders into mistakes. I think the guy would be a lot more appreciated if we did. Here's the table if anyone's interested.... https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/aerial_won Not surprised. People talk a load of s*** on here, he's a decent target man, and his link up play would be decent if he could score goals to go along with it. But he doesn't, and since the rest of our forwards are pretty goal shy as well, we need a striker who can score goals. He may win a lot of aerial battles, but usually its not benefiting us as his headers wont find one of our players. Its a bit the same from throw-ins. Its hilarious/sad how many times he has tried to pass the ball back to the thrower on the first-time touch, but just ended up totally misjudging the pass and shooting it straight back over the line. This says as much about our positioning, anticipation and movement as it does Joselu's aerial distribution for me. If you're winning that many aerial battles surely players should be getting tighter to pick up scraps and / or gambling on him winning it. We have a packed out midfield a lot of the time and if he is dropping it in with his back to goal (which he is most of the time as a result of the way we play) then an intelligent number 10 would be in and around him or one of the accompanying midfielders. That's not to say his distribution isn't partially to blame like but there's more factors than simply that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey jake Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Lethal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin Solano Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He has gone past Luuk De Jong now for sure! Wasn’t even a mishit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Joselu has never been in the De Jong and Riviere bracket, he's just easy to scapegoat for obvious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Joselu has never been in the De Jong and Riviere bracket, he's just easy to scapegoat for obvious reasons. Baffling he's being compared to those 2 in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Joselu has never been in the De Jong and Riviere bracket, he's just easy to scapegoat for obvious reasons. Baffling he's being compared to those 2 in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Aye. Now he's just in the Ameobi bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Didn't understand the reaction from some in the match thread when he came on. There was no other option and he's been alright lately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Didn't understand the reaction from some in the match thread when he came on. There was no other option and he's been alright lately Aye, and apart from Murphy what other options did we have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Didn't understand the reaction from some in the match thread when he came on. There was no other option and he's been alright lately Really? Should be used to it by now, we had the same with Diame for two seasons. Plenty of fans thick as pig shit is the explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 A lovely finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Joselu has never been in the De Jong and Riviere bracket, he's just easy to scapegoat for obvious reasons. this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Took his goal well tbf to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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