gbandit Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Not a transfer as such, but what do people expect to come of Fabio Carvalho? Stay with Liverpool this season and get some proper game time for them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 14 minutes ago, gbandit said: Not a transfer as such, but what do people expect to come of Fabio Carvalho? Stay with Liverpool this season and get some proper game time for them? Sent out on loan. Potentially a Minteh-esque one to a upper echelon club in a Euro league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 22 minutes ago, gbandit said: Not a transfer as such, but what do people expect to come of Fabio Carvalho? Stay with Liverpool this season and get some proper game time for them? Seemed to do well at Hull But poorly in Germany. Arne Slot is the man for him. He seems to trust youth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Seems obvious that PSR is bad for the PL product, starving itself of money and glamour. Sadly the PL isn’t a company with a single strategy and operates with this weird members club approach, producing some odd decisions. Worse than that is the optics of clubs being forced to sell their young talent and homegrown players to stay on the right side of PSR. The whole thing has turned into an embarrassing shitshow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Aston Villa deal with PSR way smarter than we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 If they had Ashley for 14 years they wouldnt be dealing with shit either, but then you wouldnt be having your 124th dig at the club in the last week.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Aston Villa deal with PSR way smarter than we do. They have sellable assets we don’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Aston Villa deal with PSR way smarter than we do. Their academy isn't terrible like ours has been for years though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 We got £70m for Anderson and nothing. I think we've played our cards pretty well so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 (edited) 20 minutes ago, gdm said: They have sellable assets we don’t True. But they are implementing buy back clauses for their young talent. We should’ve done something like that for Minteh. They got Maatsen in their FFP fuckery. We’ve got a no hoper. Edited July 25, 2024 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Aston Villa deal with PSR way smarter than we do. Not really. They just have a better foundation for dealing with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 32 minutes ago, gdm said: Villa replacing one fast winger with no end product with another? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: True. But they are implementing buy back clauses for their young talent. We should’ve done something like that for Minteh. They got Maatsen in their FFP fuckery. We’ve got a no hoper. How do we know Brighton would have been happy with us inserting a buy back clause? What benefit would it be for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, joeyt said: How do we know Brighton would have been happy with us inserting a buy back clause? What benefit would it be for them That’s my point. Villa are strategically selling youth to clubs that will accept a buy back. That’s executing a plan that keeps their best youngsters as Villa players long term. Our plan was just to shift the lad. We were so desperate that we didn’t even receive the highest bid. we apparently don’t have a sell on either. Minteh had a lot of suitors too. With a bit more time and strategy why couldn’t we have done what Villa have done with Philogene and Archer? we signed a clunker from Forest too. Edited July 25, 2024 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: True. But they are implementing buy back clauses for their young talent. We should’ve done something like that for Minteh. They got Maatsen in their FFP fuckery. We’ve got a no hoper. It was Brighton’s record transfer fee they likely aren’t breaking their transfer record and inserting a buy back clause. We are the ones that needed the money. Remember there was a day left before a points deduction we were in no position to be insisting they put in a buy back clause on their record transfer and if you were Brighton there’s no chance you would Edited July 25, 2024 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Just now, The College Dropout said: That’s my point. Villa are strategically selling youth to clubs that will accept a buy back. That’s executing a plan that keeps their best youngsters as Villa players long term. Our plan was just to shift the lad. We were so desperate that we didn’t even receive the highest bid. we apparently don’t have a sell on either. With a bit more time and strategy why couldn’t we have done what Villa have done with Philogene and Archer? we signed a clunker from Forest too. We got a hell of a lot more money for Anderson and Minteh than Villa did for those two though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Get the feeling things are starting to move now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 1 minute ago, joeyt said: We got a hell of a lot more money for Anderson and Minteh than Villa did for those two though? Exactly. Insert a buy back and you are gonna have to accept a lower fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 1 minute ago, gdm said: It was Brighton’s record transfer fee they likely aren’t breaking their transfer record and inserting a buy back clause. We are the ones that needed the money. Remember there was a day left before a points deduction we were in no position to be insisting they put in a buy back clause on their record transfer Exactly my point. We were just desperate for the cash. Didn’t get the best bid. No buy back. No sell on. Desperate times. Dealt with it badly. Villa - dealing with PSR a little smarter. Spent some time planning how they could navigate PSR by selling youth but still keeping them long term. In Philogene’s case they got him a great loan. Villa got a bad fee for Luiz. But at least they were proactive in resolving their PSR issues in decent time. Shows some preparation. We went from seemingly 0-100 in the last 2-3 weeks. We didn’t prepare well for it at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 You would’ve been happier if we’d sold a key player cheap to get it done quickly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Exactly my point. We were just desperate for the cash. Didn’t get the best bid. No buy back. No sell on. Desperate times. Dealt with it badly. Villa - dealing with PSR a little smarter. Spent some time planning how they could navigate PSR by selling youth but still keeping them long term. In Philogene’s case they got him a great loan. Villa got a bad fee for Luiz. But at least they were proactive in resolving their PSR issues in decent time. Shows some preparation. We went from seemingly 0-100 in the last 2-3 weeks. We didn’t prepare well for it at all. Which goes back to my original point We were desperate for the cash because we’ve no saleable assets no one wanted Almiron, longstaff or Wilson by that date Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Even if we agreed a buyback for Minteh what would it be? Probably £70m or so for it to be with it for Brighton, if he reaches that level bigger sides than us will be in for him anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, gdm said: Get the feeling things are starting to move now I also get the feeling West Ham have absolutely zero idea about how to buy strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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