Twinport53 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Are you trying to tell me that even with 18m to spend there wasn't better options for 3..players than Manquillo,Joselu and Merino We had Mbemba and Hanley as cb cover neither are any worse than Lejeune,,,,so there is 7m wasted We had Darryl Murphy who is no worse than Joselu,,,,theres 5m wasted you don't go and blow your budget on bodies just for the sake of filling a hole You use commas for ellipses, think Lejeune cost 7mil and spell Daryl with a double R. Do you have a Sunderland post code? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Brighton won it 0-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Mackemdean is a complete and utter mouth breathing grundle face. Incredible levels of retardation. Another mature response from a guy who cant see the wood for the trees Coming from the man that is doing the forum equivalent of banging his head against a brick wall. Constantly parroting utter bollocks about Ashley and the transfer budget. Spectacularly missing the point despite it getting highlighted every other post. Either you’re a RTG mackem troll, a bit simple or just a bit of a creep. I’m going with creep. Wrong again. I have the right to question anything that I feel or perceive is wrong, im absolutely entitled to my opinion and im not blinkered by what is being played out this season How old are you by the way because you come across as some absolute lovestruck kid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Youre the tosspot for thinking Mike Ashley decides who we sign. A manager can say no you know. Do a bit of f***ing research and look at some of the absolute s**** that he signed for Liverpool too Oh I suppose Hicks and Gillet forced him to sign that s**** too He does decide because Rafa aint got 100mil in his back pocket to sign a prime Fernando Torres. He gives a budget just like any other owner/chairman who runs a business and then the manager works with that budget. He does not decide who is recruited with that budget. Rafa chose to sign these useless f***ers he was not forced to what cant you understand about that *breathe* Right... Example time Rafa wants a 15mil striker, a 10mil LB and a 15 mil CM. 40mil is not much in todays market. Ashley counters with a budget of 18mil. Rafa then has to buy a 5mil Joselu, a 5mil Manq, and an 8mil Merino. If he doesn't buy them, we have no LB to cover the injured Dummett, no CF he trusts other than Gayle, and 2 CMs in Hayden and Jonjo. See the problem? Or would you rather he bought nobody and we play Mitrovic at LB? Are you trying to tell me that even with 18m to spend there wasn't better options for 3..players than Manquillo,Joselu and Merino We had Mbemba and Hanley as cb cover neither are any worse than Lejeune,,,,so there is 7m wasted We had Darryl Murphy who is no worse than Joselu,,,,theres 5m wasted you don't go and blow your budget on bodies just for the sake of filling a hole Please stop posting on here and stay on RTG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Right... Example time Rafa wants a 15mil striker, a 10mil LB and a 15 mil CM. 40mil is not much in todays market. Ashley counters with a budget of 18mil. Rafa then has to buy a 5mil Joselu, a 5mil Manq, and an 8mil Merino. If he doesn't buy them, we have no LB to cover the injured Dummett, no CF he trusts other than Gayle, and 2 CMs in Hayden and Jonjo. See the problem? Or would you rather he bought nobody and we play Mitrovic at LB? he bought lazar never game his a chance. He brought in Gamez who can also play left back and did well v Swansea. He spent 12 million on a winger who although early days looks woeful and is blocking Aarons. He spent 9 million o Lejeuene whem Mbemba is better. He spent 5 million on Donkeylu when Mitrovic is better. 5 million on Mats Selz. Fair enough not a massive budget but his signings havent beem great. 21 million on joselu, murphy and lejeune id rather it all went on a striker as for lb id havw flogged dummett to some idiot like pardew. Not just for his footballi g ability but he doesnt have a great record pf staying fit take a deep breath again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Love Rafa me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 This place when we lose It was a draw!! It was a 0 - 0 tactical masterstroke. Feels like a win to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Are you trying to tell me that even with 18m to spend there wasn't better options for 3..players than Manquillo,Joselu and Merino We had Mbemba and Hanley as cb cover neither are any worse than Lejeune,,,,so there is 7m wasted We had Darryl Murphy who is no worse than Joselu,,,,theres 5m wasted you don't go and blow your budget on bodies just for the sake of filling a hole You use commas for ellipses, think Lejeune cost 7mil and spell Daryl with a double R. Do you have a Sunderland post code? How much did Lejeune cost then?. No I don't have a Sunderland postcode heaven forbid anyone that even challenges or questions anything that happens with our club is branded a Mackem by some kid who cant see through the black and white glasses Looka the bigger picture here love Rafa all you like, praise him all you like the cold hard truth is hes taking us down and will be deemed a failure when he does so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Love Rafa me Just have a nap, and regroup, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Are you trying to tell me that even with 18m to spend there wasn't better options for 3..players than Manquillo,Joselu and Merino We had Mbemba and Hanley as cb cover neither are any worse than Lejeune,,,,so there is 7m wasted We had Darryl Murphy who is no worse than Joselu,,,,theres 5m wasted you don't go and blow your budget on bodies just for the sake of filling a hole You use commas for ellipses, think Lejeune cost 7mil and spell Daryl with a double R. Do you have a Sunderland post code? How much did Lejeune cost then?. No I don't have a Sunderland postcode heaven forbid anyone that even challenges or questions anything that happens with our club is branded a Mackem by some kid who cant see through the black and white glasses Looka the bigger picture here love Rafa all you like, praise him all you like the cold hard truth is hes taking us down and will be deemed a failure when he does so You telling people to look at the bigger picture? Have a word with yourself you fucking clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Love Rafa me Just have a nap, and regroup, man. Need more than that, need time out. Sorry for calling you a knob man, easily one of the posters I respect most on here. Just thought we would show more today and needed to as well. Unless we can get some really top players in in Jan I fear it’s all too late even with a takeover. Pissed off with Rafa, but it is what it is and we go again with Stoke up next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Are you trying to tell me that even with 18m to spend there wasn't better options for 3..players than Manquillo,Joselu and Merino We had Mbemba and Hanley as cb cover neither are any worse than Lejeune,,,,so there is 7m wasted We had Darryl Murphy who is no worse than Joselu,,,,theres 5m wasted you don't go and blow your budget on bodies just for the sake of filling a hole You use commas for ellipses, think Lejeune cost 7mil and spell Daryl with a double R. Do you have a Sunderland post code? How much did Lejeune cost then?. No I don't have a Sunderland postcode heaven forbid anyone that even challenges or questions anything that happens with our club is branded a Mackem by some kid who cant see through the black and white glasses Looka the bigger picture here love Rafa all you like, praise him all you like the cold hard truth is hes taking us down and will be deemed a failure when he does so He won't be here though. The thing you fail to realise, is if a none existent budget is repeated in January by Ashley and he's left rummaging round for more Manqs and Joselus, then he's offski. He wants these shit players as much as you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Josemi Malaga £2,000,000 26 July 2004 Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000 17 August 2004 Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20 August 2004 Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20 August 2004 Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 5 January 2005 Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13 January 2005 Scott Carson Leeds £1,000,000 21 January 2005 Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free 4 July 2005 Pepe Reina Villarreal £6,000,000 4 July 2005 Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 4 July 2005 Momo Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14 July 2005 Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20 July 2005 Miki Roque Lleidav Unknown 15 August 2005 Jack Hobbs Lincoln £150,000 18 August 2005 Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000 22 August 2005 Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000 20 October 2005 Paul Anderson Hull Swap 1 January 2006 Jan Kromkamp Villarreal Swap 4 January 2006 David Martin MK Dons £250,000 12 January 2006 Daniel Agger Brondby £5,800,000 12 January 2006 Robbie Fowler Man City Free 27 January 2006 Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 1 July 2006 Gabriel Paletta Banfield £2,000,000 4 July 2006 Fabio Aurelio Valencia Free 5 July 2006 Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26 July 2006 Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18 August 2006 Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21 August 2006 Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 11 January 2007 Daniele Padelli Sampdoria Loan 12 January 2007 Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed 24 January 2007 Francisco Manuel Duran Malaga £66,000 30 January 2007 Alvaro Arbeloa Deportivo £2,500,000 31 January 2007 Javier Mascherano West Ham Loan 20 February 2007 Lucas Gremio £5,000,000 11 May 2007 Krisztian Nemeth MTK Hungaria Undisclosed 25 May 2007 Mikel San Jose Athletic Bilbao £270,000 28 June 2007 Sebastian Leto Lanús £1,800,000 1 July 2007 Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 4 July 2007 Andriy Voronin Leverkusen Free 6 July 2007 Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 12 July 2007 Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13 July 2007 Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 9 August 2007 Emiliano Insua Boca Juniors £1,300,000 26 August 2007 Lauri Dalla Valle JIPPO £600,000 8 November 2007 Martin Skrtel Zenit St Petersburg £6,500,000 11 January 2008 Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £18,600,000 29 February 2008 Philipp Degen Borussia Dortmund Free 3 July 2008 Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 4 July 2008 Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11 July 2008 David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24 July 2008 Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 28 July 2008 Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31 August 2008 Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 26 June 2009 Alberto Aquilani Roma £17,100,000 7 August 2009 Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 21 August 2009 Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 17 September 2009 Maxi Rodriguez Atletico Madrid Free 12 January 2010 Raheem Sterling Queens Park Rangers £600,000 27 February 2010 Jonjo Shelvey Charlton £1,700,000 10 May 2010 Milan Jovanovic Standard Liege Free 8 July 2010 I suppose Hicks and Gillet forced these on him too then. Give or take 6 big plusses the rest are fucking appaling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Nobody said the Man City game was a tactical masterstroke fwiw That bit of japes seems to be creeping in quite a bit. The team worked hard and as a plan it looked better than 'taking the game to them'. The complete butchering of arguments on this forum is tragic at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Nothing like a wrong football result to showcase reason being abandoned in favour of emotion like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm behind him still. I hate his allergy to early subs mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Are you trying to tell me that even with 18m to spend there wasn't better options for 3..players than Manquillo,Joselu and Merino We had Mbemba and Hanley as cb cover neither are any worse than Lejeune,,,,so there is 7m wasted We had Darryl Murphy who is no worse than Joselu,,,,theres 5m wasted you don't go and blow your budget on bodies just for the sake of filling a hole You use commas for ellipses, think Lejeune cost 7mil and spell Daryl with a double R. Do you have a Sunderland post code? How much did Lejeune cost then?. No I don't have a Sunderland postcode heaven forbid anyone that even challenges or questions anything that happens with our club is branded a Mackem by some kid who cant see through the black and white glasses Looka the bigger picture here love Rafa all you like, praise him all you like the cold hard truth is hes taking us down and will be deemed a failure when he does so You telling people to look at the bigger picture? Have a word with yourself you fucking clown. Another one of those classic phrases that mean absolutely shit all in most contexts that people use them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 What would 20.2 million for Torres from 2007 translate to now? Because Ashley won't spend 12.2 let alone the inflated fee in todays market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 Forgot that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Josemi Malaga £2,000,000 26 July 2004 Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000 17 August 2004 Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20 August 2004 Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20 August 2004 Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 5 January 2005 Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13 January 2005 Scott Carson Leeds £1,000,000 21 January 2005 Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free 4 July 2005 Pepe Reina Villarreal £6,000,000 4 July 2005 Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 4 July 2005 Momo Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14 July 2005 Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20 July 2005 Miki Roque Lleidav Unknown 15 August 2005 Jack Hobbs Lincoln £150,000 18 August 2005 Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000 22 August 2005 Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000 20 October 2005 Paul Anderson Hull Swap 1 January 2006 Jan Kromkamp Villarreal Swap 4 January 2006 David Martin MK Dons £250,000 12 January 2006 Daniel Agger Brondby £5,800,000 12 January 2006 Robbie Fowler Man City Free 27 January 2006 Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 1 July 2006 Gabriel Paletta Banfield £2,000,000 4 July 2006 Fabio Aurelio Valencia Free 5 July 2006 Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26 July 2006 Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18 August 2006 Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21 August 2006 Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 11 January 2007 Daniele Padelli Sampdoria Loan 12 January 2007 Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed 24 January 2007 Francisco Manuel Duran Malaga £66,000 30 January 2007 Alvaro Arbeloa Deportivo £2,500,000 31 January 2007 Javier Mascherano West Ham Loan 20 February 2007 Lucas Gremio £5,000,000 11 May 2007 Krisztian Nemeth MTK Hungaria Undisclosed 25 May 2007 Mikel San Jose Athletic Bilbao £270,000 28 June 2007 Sebastian Leto Lanús £1,800,000 1 July 2007 Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 4 July 2007 Andriy Voronin Leverkusen Free 6 July 2007 Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 12 July 2007 Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13 July 2007 Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 9 August 2007 Emiliano Insua Boca Juniors £1,300,000 26 August 2007 Lauri Dalla Valle JIPPO £600,000 8 November 2007 Martin Skrtel Zenit St Petersburg £6,500,000 11 January 2008 Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £18,600,000 29 February 2008 Philipp Degen Borussia Dortmund Free 3 July 2008 Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 4 July 2008 Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11 July 2008 David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24 July 2008 Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 28 July 2008 Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31 August 2008 Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 26 June 2009 Alberto Aquilani Roma £17,100,000 7 August 2009 Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 21 August 2009 Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 17 September 2009 Maxi Rodriguez Atletico Madrid Free 12 January 2010 Raheem Sterling Queens Park Rangers £600,000 27 February 2010 Jonjo Shelvey Charlton £1,700,000 10 May 2010 Milan Jovanovic Standard Liege Free 8 July 2010 I suppose Hicks and Gillet forced these on him too then. Give or take 6 big plusses the rest are fucking appaling What's your point, there's some legitimately world class buys in there Aye, not every player he signs is going to be great. If that's you point then I suppose well done? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Rafa is building us a house using straw provided by Ashley and people are complaining when the roof leaks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 The only player which I think was a shambolic signing was Manquillo as the mackems i know all said he was absolute bobbins. Understand the other signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I guess the point would be look at his win % with Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 You an avid watcher of Liverpool in 2004-2010, like? In which they won a CL, got to another final, another semi final, won the FA Cup, challenged for the PL title in a season in which they went 38 games with only 2 defeats? His Napoli signings are the main reason why they are where they are in Serie A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I picked out at least 25 players that were huge successes in there, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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