Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Yes three valid points so what is going to happen next summer if/when he goes then? Is that the end game? Do people expect all out war then on Ashley? Just feels like we are waiting for next May for whatever is going to happen to happen. That's why I can't get any interest at all in games at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Notice he also said 'support the team not the regime' anarl. Yeah I don't get all this fawning over him anymore. He has put up with 2 monumental shaftings last 2 summers. If he was that unhappy he would have left. He is just keeping fans content and any real pressure off Ashley in my oppinion I'm sure you would be happy if Rafa left, unfortunately I think Ashley would be as well. No doubt he'd give his right arm to have a Pardew or McClaren to lick his ring piece in public rather than have Rafa taking veiled digs. Veiled digs are nowt. Either come out and say it how it is and leave or he just puts up with it for some weird reason till may. I so wish it turned out different for him here and this is in no way his fault obviously but he dosent need this at all now and the only person benefitting from him staying is Ashley You didn’t answer the question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Yes three valid points so what is going to happen next summer if/when he goes then? Is that the end game? Do people expect all out war then on Ashley? Just feels like we are waiting for next May for whatever is going to happen to happen. That's why I can't get any interest at all in games at the moment I completely get your frustration mate, don't get me wrong, I feel like I'm in some kind of malaise, waiting for the inevitable, like it's some kind of incurable cancer and I just want it done already. I can't bring myself to enjoy this season and I should be taking in every last second we have this glorious man as our manager, we very well might not get a chance like this in the next decade or more. However I will not ever place this feeling on Rafa, none of this is his fault, he just loves the club, the supporters and the city, the same as the rest of us. Without a doubt there is one man only to blame for any of this and he is the one that should feel every fibre of your anger/frustration, attack him and his shoddy little jumble sale empire in any way you can because him leaving is the only way any of us will feel any pride in this club again. Don't wait for May, May needs to be the deadline to remove this cancer, not the start of some belated campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Notice he also said 'support the team not the regime' anarl. Yeah I don't get all this fawning over him anymore. He has put up with 2 monumental shaftings last 2 summers. If he was that unhappy he would have left. He is just keeping fans content and any real pressure off Ashley in my oppinion I'm sure you would be happy if Rafa left, unfortunately I think Ashley would be as well. No doubt he'd give his right arm to have a Pardew or McClaren to lick his ring piece in public rather than have Rafa taking veiled digs. Veiled digs are nowt. Either come out and say it how it is and leave or he just puts up with it for some weird reason till may. I so wish it turned out different for him here and this is in no way his fault obviously but he dosent need this at all now and the only person benefitting from him staying is Ashley I think Ashley would prefer it if he walked tbh. He's shown he's got a thin skin on plenty of occasions, he does not like managers who don't lick his arse. He got rid of Hughton because he wouldn't fall in line, virtually made it impossible for Keegan to manage the club, and his appointments of yes men since, shows that he doesn't want dissent or public criticism. Every dig Rafa has will be raising the fat cunt's blood pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Yeah it's just massive frustration getting home on a bank holiday weekend when I would usually be out Sunday seeing mates and going to the match but I feel nothing for it other than sheer hate for Ashley. Just needed an outlet to vent. Oh yeah i agree none of it is his fault and with a normal owner we would be in for special times. I feel for Rafa more than anything he dosent need or deserve this but I just think him being here keeps a large amount of our support blind to Ashley. I fear if/when he goes next summer that nothing really happens. If that's the case then we are done for if we aren't already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Yeah but him staying is giving Ashley a far far easier ride than he would get if Rafa walked. If he is staying till may he needs to come out an say more against Ashley fuck these little veil digs He's a professional mate, you seem to be overlooking this. He's also a massive football guy into coaching etc. which is another reason he's not walked. Make me 3 examples of football managers who have come out and went to war on their employers. Just doesn't happen. It would be incredible if Rafa martyred himself for us but it's not realistic to expect it. He's got a job to do and he'll do it, that's why he's so mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Ultimately, the way things are at present gives NUFC the best springboard to fulfil it's potential. He's doing his job, whilst the players do their's and the fans just need to do their bit now inside and outside the ground. Stay up, remove Ashley, keep Benitez. That's how this club moves forward. Not making a martyr of himself like Keegan did. (tin hat) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Yeah I agree as long as the fans doing there part involve constant anti Ashley chants inside the ground too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Yeah I agree as long as the fans doing there part involve constant anti Ashley chants inside the ground too I think supporting the team for the most part then chanting about Ashley for the last 5/10minutes at every game is the way to go at the moment. Protest at every home game in some form and the occasional away game too and constantly do it online and via the media. Then as the transfer window closes after January we start turning the screw more, and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Yeah I agree as long as the fans doing there part involve constant anti Ashley chants inside the ground too Rafa doesn't want these chants brought to the match though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Yeah I agree as long as the fans doing there part involve constant anti Ashley chants inside the ground too Rafa doesn't want these chants brought to the match though? As long as the support remains throughout the game I can't see it impacting on the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Yeah I agree as long as the fans doing there part involve constant anti Ashley chants inside the ground too I think supporting the team for the most part then chanting about Ashley for the last 5/10minutes at every game is the way to go at the moment. Protest at every home game in some form and the occasional away game too and constantly do it online and via the media. Then as the transfer window closes after January we start turning the screw more, and more. I think the time to turn would be post January surely, if the club don't tie him down to a new contract (which they obviously won't) then burn it all down as it won't matter anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Notice he also said 'support the team not the regime' anarl. Yeah I don't get all this fawning over him anymore. He has put up with 2 monumental shaftings last 2 summers. If he was that unhappy he would have left. He is just keeping fans content and any real pressure off Ashley in my oppinion I'm sure you would be happy if Rafa left, unfortunately I think Ashley would be as well. No doubt he'd give his right arm to have a Pardew or McClaren to lick his ring piece in public rather than have Rafa taking veiled digs. Veiled digs are nowt. Either come out and say it how it is and leave or he just puts up with it for some weird reason till may. I so wish it turned out different for him here and this is in no way his fault obviously but he dosent need this at all now and the only person benefitting from him staying is Ashley You didn’t answer the question What question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Yeah I agree as long as the fans doing there part involve constant anti Ashley chants inside the ground too I think supporting the team for the most part then chanting about Ashley for the last 5/10minutes at every game is the way to go at the moment. Protest at every home game in some form and the occasional away game too and constantly do it online and via the media. Then as the transfer window closes after January we start turning the screw more, and more. I think the time to turn would be post January surely, if the club don't tie him down to a new contract (which they obviously won't) then burn it all down as it won't matter anyway. So what if he does sign a new contract? He could sign one today and it wouldn't change a thing for me. What's to say he wouldn't put up with another 2 years like we have had in the transfer windows. Ashley out is the be all and end all. With or without Rafa or whatever else. Obviously I would rather Rafa stays but hammering Ashley is far more important than Rafa Benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I have no doubt Rafa's digs will get worse as the season gets going which will lead to Big Sam's return Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 SSN now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Stick him on the list along with Bellamy, shola, forde, my dad, keys, wise etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What's he saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unfortunately by sticking around and taking it Rafa has made a rod for his own back. He should have been long gone by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unfortunately by sticking around and taking it Rafa has made a rod for his own back. He should have been long gone by now We get it, you think Rafa should have walked and you used to go to games and now you don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unfortunately by sticking around and taking it Rafa has made a rod for his own back. He should have been long gone by now We get it, you think Rafa should have walked and you used to go to games and now you don't Really ? never knew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 He has no business being here anymore. He is the only thing keeping a mass wave of hate and pressure towards Ashley at bay. Just step aside and let it unleash Rafa man you have f all to lose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Don't be daft, man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It's not daft it's true. We all pretty much agree the most important thing for the club is getting Ashley out. With Rafa the pressure on him is at about 40%. Rafa walks then it at least doubles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On the contrary, Rafa is probably the only thing making as many work to get Ashley out at the moment as there are, knowing that we'll be reduced to being nothing again when Rafa walks. If Rafa walks full blown apathy among our supporters will set in again within days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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