toon25 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: I think it's pretty clear you either weren't really following the club at the time or you just weren't paying attention to what was going on. Reads like you're just making stuff up as you go along. mackemvicar, more like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, toon25 said: Still coming out with utter shite, here. Look at the squad he had. What did you expect him to come up with? Look at the money he spent for the time he was here. It was a decent amount and he could've done much better if he used players better and bought better. Let's look at his final season with us and see what players he had at his disposal. We had some decent players at the time which weren't properly used in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: Look at the money he spent for the time he was here. It was a decent amount and he could've done much better if he used players better and bought better. Let's look at his final season with us and see what players he had at his disposal. We had some decent players at the time which weren't properly used in my opinion. Which ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: Look at the money he spent for the time he was here. It was a decent amount and he could've done much better if he used players better and bought better. Let's look at his final season with us and see what players he had at his disposal. We had some decent players at the time which weren't properly used in my opinion. This guy man Lets see the names of these players then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: Look at the money he spent for the time he was here. It was a decent amount and he could've done much better if he used players better and bought better. Let's look at his final season with us and see what players he had at his disposal. We had some decent players at the time which weren't properly used in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Ashley apologists already. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, magvicar said: Look at the money he spent for the time he was here. It was a decent amount and he could've done much better if he used players better and bought better. Let's look at his final season with us and see what players he had at his disposal. We had some decent players at the time which weren't properly used in my opinion. Not to mention Mike Ashley wasn't even giving him any money to spend. Are you sure you it wasn't a different club you were following ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: Not to mention Mike Ashley wasn't even giving him any money to spend. Are you sure you it wasn't a different club you were following ? He's defo taking the piss, like. Unfathomable as to how anyone supporting this club can hold those views. Extraordinary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Ashley apologists already. Wow. He was a wind-up merchant on nufc-forum for years. Edited April 10, 2023 by RS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, KaKa said: Rafa wanted a one year extension, what does that have to do with how much money he wanted? Why ask for a one year extension? And how much money did he ask for for this one year extension. Any idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 The squad was an abomination. It’s fair to level the claim against Rafa that he was defensively extremely rigid and that we played a brand of football that was built first and foremost on not conceding. That plays to Rafa’s strengths as a coach/manager and also to our squad at the time. We’ll never know what things would have been like if he’d actually been able to spend but he’s a great manager and with better players we’d have played much better football I imagine. Anyway, Howe is a better short-term and long-term fit for us and I’m absolutely delighted how things have worked out for us. Hopefully Rafa can restore his reputation as I feel he’s been branded unfairly as a managerial has-been because of his Everton spell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, magvicar said: Obviously as a club we did need to spend better but bear in mind we bought a lot of championship players at the top end of the scale to do a job and it worked. Back in the premier league Rafa bought in some decent players but not enough but he also didn't get the best out of a lot which I think he could've definitely done, Miggy being one. But as I said earlier, Ashley has to take his share of the blame but so does Rafa. Before Almirón signed, we averaged 1 point per game in 2018-19. After he signed, we averaged 1.61 points per game. His signing changed our form and way of playing that season, so the comment on Almirón is nonsense. I don't understand what Benitez needs to take blame for? Swear when it came to net spend we were in the green under him across his tenure. We'd plug player turnover with short termers like Ki or punts like Schär. Some worked (brilliantly in Schär's case, for £3m it's one of our best ever for value signings we've ever made), some didn't because the wriggle room for error on such a small budget is negligible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: Why ask for a one year extension? And how much money did he ask for for this one year extension. Any idea? I already told you why he asked for a one year extension. Don't even bother trying to insinuate he was asking for too much for that one year extension either. This shit is truly pathetic man. Urgh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Rafa may be having difficulty finding a job because I think he has a reputation now for not getting on with club owners, and that doesn't just mean Ashley. That's not necessarily fair, but I think that's what's around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Didn't almiron play about 5 games for us under rafa before getting injured for the season? Aye when he fist signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, Cronky said: Rafa may be having difficulty finding a job because I think he has a reputation now for not getting on with club owners, and that doesn't just mean Ashley. That's not necessarily fair, but I think that's what's around. Ultimately he proved to be right about the Liverpool bunch and then proved to be right about Mike Ashley. Seems to me that Mike Ashley has since poisoned his name about the place. I always hear the likes of Simon Jordan spouting nonsense about him being a trouble maker, I wonder who on Earth he heard that from other than his pal Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, RS said: He was a wind-up merchant on nufc-forum for years. Explains everything. I’ve never had anyone from the forum on ignore before but seriously considering it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: Ultimately he proved to be right about the Liverpool bunch and then proved to be right about Mike Ashley. Seems to me that Mike Ashley has since poisoned his name about the place. I always hear the likes of Simon Jordan spouting nonsense about him being a trouble maker, I wonder who on Earth he heard that from other than his pal Mike Ashley. Ashley’s PR lot had a direct line to TalkSport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Which ones? Take a look at what he had in the premier league, including loans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 He bought championship players to get outta the league. When we got the Premier league Ashley wouldn't part with the money to improve us so we were left with piss poor prem players, yet the man had us comfortable which is a feat in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, LV said: Explains everything. I’ve never had anyone from the forum on ignore before but seriously considering it. Not sure how people get through this forum without having people on ignore. I have like 20-30 people on ignore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Not sure how people get through this forum without having people on ignore. I have like 20-30 people on ignore. Dunno man, I usually want to hear what others have to say and generally don’t hold grudges. But this guy really got to me today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, magvicar said: Take a look at what he had in the premier league, including loans. Yeah I'm just wondering which decent players we had that he didn't use properly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I tell you what like it wasn't that long ago that he was here, yet were all having to refresh posters memory's about the circumstances. Almost like there on a wind up or just dense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, magvicar said: Aye when he fist signed. Yeah so obviously he wouldn't be able to get the best out of him if he's crocked mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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