Guest firetotheworks Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 He was, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Was Diamé good when he came on? True Faith say yes but they are generally big fans of him. Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Influenced the game which is more than can be said of Perez/Joselu. Problem being he can't play longer than a half hour as he can't actually run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Not sure what's wrong with the idea of Palace having better players than us, like. They clearly do in Zaha, Loftus-Cheek, Benteke, Zakho, but as has been mentioned time and time again, the difference is Rafa. You only need to look at Townsend's form with us to see the difference between just comparing players as they are, and comparing them with what they have the potential to be under Rafa. Loftus-Cheek...? Even better than your mate Merino? Zaha is good, but has his contribution this season been any better than Ritchie's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Not sure what's wrong with the idea of Palace having better players than us, like. They clearly do in Zaha, Loftus-Cheek, Benteke, Zakho, but as has been mentioned time and time again, the difference is Rafa. You only need to look at Townsend's form with us to see the difference between just comparing players as they are, and comparing them with what they have the potential to be under Rafa. Loftus-Cheek...? Even better than your mate Merino? Zaha is good, but has his contribution this season been any better than Ritchie's? Loftus-Cheek plays in Perez's position not Merino's and Zaha plays in Atsu's position not Ritchie's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Palace have some good players, but it's a very unbalanced squad. Big money signings playing alongside crap and Championship fodder. The fact they have no striker at the moment and 38 year old Speroni in goal shows the disaster of their team building. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Not sure what's wrong with the idea of Palace having better players than us, like. They clearly do in Zaha, Loftus-Cheek, Benteke, Zakho, but as has been mentioned time and time again, the difference is Rafa. You only need to look at Townsend's form with us to see the difference between just comparing players as they are, and comparing them with what they have the potential to be under Rafa. Loftus-Cheek...? Even better than your mate Merino? Zaha is good, but has his contribution this season been any better than Ritchie's? Loftus-Cheek plays in Perez's position not Merino's and Zaha plays in Atsu's position not Ritchie's. Has Cabaye been better than Merino or Shelvey this season? What about Townsend? Has he been better than Richie...? And Sakho? Better than Lascelles this season? Not many of that Palace side will make into ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Not sure what's wrong with the idea of Palace having better players than us, like. They clearly do in Zaha, Loftus-Cheek, Benteke, Zakho, but as has been mentioned time and time again, the difference is Rafa. You only need to look at Townsend's form with us to see the difference between just comparing players as they are, and comparing them with what they have the potential to be under Rafa. Loftus-Cheek...? Even better than your mate Merino? Zaha is good, but has his contribution this season been any better than Ritchie's? Loftus-Cheek plays in Perez's position not Merino's and Zaha plays in Atsu's position not Ritchie's. Has Cabaye been better than Merino or Shelvey this season? What about Townsend? Has he been better than Richie...? And Sakho? Better than Lascelles this season? Not many of that Palace side will make into ours. None of them have had better seasons, but that doesn't mean that some of them aren't better/more effective players in the right circumstances. Drinkwater had a better season than David Silva a couple of seasons ago, for example. I didn't mention Cabaye or Townsend, so no. Sahko is objectively a better defender than Lascelles though imo, but that doesn't mean that Lascelles hasn't had a great start to the season. Providing their attitudes are right, Sahko, Van Aanholt, Loftus-Cheek, Saha, Benteke would comfortably get in our side under Rafa's management. They're simply better players than Lascelles, Dummett, Perez, Atsu, and Joselu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That is a simplistic argument though. Benteke might be a good striker but he cost them £32 million, hasn't scored a goal this season and is now crocked leaving them without a centre forward to play. They do have some 'high value' players, but they have been signed at the cost of improving the squad overall. Spending their entire summer budget on Sakho and leaving clear holes throughout the squad was another example of bad management. Their squad is patchy and unbalanced and it's arguably the main reason they're struggling, even moreso than the manager(s). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'd without doubt like 2-3 of their individual players, but I wouldn't in a million years support a hypothetical squad swap, and that's Palace's issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Kebab is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Sakho is not a better "defender" like. He's better on the ball, but Lascelles is a better defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'd have Speroni, Zaha, Benteke, Townsend, PVA and Sakho in our first team like. I don't know anything of the others. Cabaye is past it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Speroni must be about 50 by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Aye let's take half of the worst team in the league, that will make us better. Never seen such an overrated team in my life, I wonder how long do they need be utter shite before people open their eyes to the reality. March? April? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Sakho is not a better "defender" like. He's better on the ball, but Lascelles is a better defender. Sakho's terrible on the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Aye let's take half of the worst team in the league, that will make us better. Never seen such an overrated team in my life, I wonder how long do they need be utter s**** before people open their eyes to the reality. March? April? They are a shit team, but have some decent players. As for an overrated team, who the hell has overrated them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'd have Speroni aye, take the only goalkeeper in the league who's less agile than ours, good plan like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Palace are pretty much the only team where I'm not jealous of their goalkeeping options Maybe West Ham too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'd have Speroni. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/012/886/wntgd.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That is a simplistic argument though. Benteke might be a good striker but he cost them £32 million, hasn't scored a goal this season and is now crocked leaving them without a centre forward to play. They do have some 'high value' players, but they have been signed at the cost of improving the squad overall. Spending their entire summer budget on Sakho and leaving clear holes throughout the squad was another example of bad management. Their squad is patchy and unbalanced and it's arguably the main reason they're struggling, even moreso than the manager(s). I don't see how any of this relates to my post tbh, you're making a different, much wider point that I hadn't touched upon at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Sakho is not a better "defender" like. He's better on the ball, but Lascelles is a better defender. Why is defender in inverted commas? Each to their own. Put both under Rafa and I'd pick Sakho every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Aye let's take half of the worst team in the league, that will make us better. Never seen such an overrated team in my life, I wonder how long do they need be utter shite before people open their eyes to the reality. March? April? You'd think managers didn't exist the way you go on about best and worst, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That is a simplistic argument though. Benteke might be a good striker but he cost them £32 million, hasn't scored a goal this season and is now crocked leaving them without a centre forward to play. They do have some 'high value' players, but they have been signed at the cost of improving the squad overall. Spending their entire summer budget on Sakho and leaving clear holes throughout the squad was another example of bad management. Their squad is patchy and unbalanced and it's arguably the main reason they're struggling, even moreso than the manager(s). I don't see how any of this relates to my post tbh, you're making a different, much wider point that I hadn't touched upon at all. You said this: Not sure what's wrong with the idea of Palace having better players than us, like. Then listed a handful of players to support that point. There's no doubt they have some players that would get a game for us, as I'd image most clubs in the league do. On the whole though, their team/squad is one of the weakest and most imbalanced in the division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That is a simplistic argument though. Benteke might be a good striker but he cost them £32 million, hasn't scored a goal this season and is now crocked leaving them without a centre forward to play. They do have some 'high value' players, but they have been signed at the cost of improving the squad overall. Spending their entire summer budget on Sakho and leaving clear holes throughout the squad was another example of bad management. Their squad is patchy and unbalanced and it's arguably the main reason they're struggling, even moreso than the manager(s). I don't see how any of this relates to my post tbh, you're making a different, much wider point that I hadn't touched upon at all. You said this: Not sure what's wrong with the idea of Palace having better players than us, like. Then listed a handful of players to support that point. There's no doubt they have some players that would get a game for us, as I'd image most clubs in the league do. On the whole though, their team/squad is one of the weakest and most imbalanced in the division. There's no doubt they have some players that would get a game for us. That's the beginning and end of my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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