NG32 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Somebody with more intelligence explain this to me, please. Who exactly was buying the club here? PCP or Reuben Brothers? Did RB hire Staveley to do the bidding on their behalf, or did she decide one day that she wanted to buy it, and then went out to look for backers? So we might have possibly had a PCP/RB partnership? Dunno, does it matter now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 He should start running us like a £350m football club then. We're valuable when it suits him, worthless when it doesn't. It's because of 10 years of failure including an appalling transfer record that buyers aren't exactly queuing up to pay his asking price. The club is worth fuck-all without its Premier League status, and we're clearly going to be perilously close to losing it yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 This isn't going anywhere quickly ,:/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 If £300m was a fair price there would be people lining up. It's not though and it's entirely Ashley's fault that that is the case. I think our best case scenario now is to confirm safety as quickly as possible and then pray someone comes in with a substantial offer between that date and the end of the World Cup. Beyond that and we get close to the whole cycle starting again where it would be borderline insane to pay that much for a club hanging by a thread in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. I know it's a point that's been made, but the club is really only worth what someone is willing to pay. For instance Southampton were valued at around 260 million and had a 75 million asset on their books, a squad still worth much more than ours after he was sold and also a much more solid premier league place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Bet Ashley is gutted this didn't come out straight after the transfer deadline the smokescreen fabricating c***. He released it that's how fucking thick he is. PCP are to blame. Ashley is saving the day allowing Rafa to sell some players and loaning a keeper from Sunday league in Botswana Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Dunno what that's for. £250m for one of the best supported PL clubs with a 52k seater stadium, massive potential and TV deals rolling in isn't a great price. Pretty much everyone in this thread so far agreed that wouldn't get it done so wind your neck in Doc Hollywood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 is it a catch-22 that we're in? i.e. we won't be bought unless we avoid relegation/ but if we avoid relegation MA won't sell? this thoroughly confuses me anyway, i still have hope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Bet Ashley is gutted this didn't come out straight after the transfer deadline the smokescreen fabricating c***. He released it that's how f***ing thick he is. PCP are to blame. Ashley is saving the day allowing Rafa to sell some players and loaning a keeper from Sunday league in Botswana mackems beat us to the keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I just can't get how unprofessional NUFC have been throughout the whole process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I thought the offer was £300 mil and what caused it all to collapse was the sticking point of the relegation reduction in fee's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Insane how NUFC is only worth 2 Coutinhos but hey ho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ?? If you look at the sky subscribers Ashley has his value more than right. Viewers at the match are one of the highest in the league, away fans also, check. Sky subscribers also up there as the best if not the best. Every angle covered. He has run us as a Sports Direct subsidiary like he has with every other company he has done the same thing to when taking over. He does just enough and I wonder how many Rafa's/Managers in his business he has done the same thing to when stepping over them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 https://twitter.com/bigchrisholt/status/954025580839817217 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Guessing that is related to outsourcing stuff at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The Club valuation is not helped by the crazy player prices. Not saying we would sell them but I wonder how much Lascelles,Merino, Murphy and Atsu would be worth in the summer or the year after if they progress. Surely the longer the deal takes the value can only go up. Even the crapper players value could have gone up for the first time ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I just can't get how unprofessional NUFC have been throughout the whole process. Surely you can? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It's the most straightforward thing about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ?? If you look at the sky subscribers Ashley has his value more than right. Viewers at the match are one of the highest in the league, away fans also, check. Sky subscribers also up there as the best if not the best. Every angle covered. He has run us as a Sports Direct subsidiary like he has with every other company he has done the same thing to when taking over. He does just enough and I wonder how many Rafa's/Managers in his business he has done the same thing to when stepping over them? Yeah don't disagree with the point about the TV money and it's value to Sports Direct. But it has no value to Newcastle united or the Value of club, now if the club received the correct value in sponsorship for hoarding space (value at upto £40m per season)then that would add to the value of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Amanda Staveley: the unusual case of Newcastle United’s would-be-owner https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case?CMP=share_btn_tw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Amanda Staveley: the unusual case of Newcastle United’s would-be-owner https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case?CMP=share_btn_tw Eurgh, here comes all the huff painting her in a bad light etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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