Tubestationatmidnight Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 they would be hounding this cunt out at liverpool, manure, and even west ham. We would have 15/20 years ago. Our fan base has changed so much. Staggering how he can sit there unchallenged after all he's done. Staggering until you remember the type of fan who goes nowadays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Copied the following post from toontastic and it sums the situation up perfectly for me. For those of us who were around following NUFC in the 70s, 80s and 90s this current situation has officially killed off the NUFC we grew up with and its not coming back either. I simply dont identify with the people who go to SJP anymore. Anyway, onto that copied post..... I don’t think this is a knee jerk to a poor result at home to a weak side but I feel like Ashley has finally pushed firmly down on the pillow and suffocated this club this season after a decade of holding it just above the club’s nose. The club has been utterly destroyed, we were a great football club, not necessarily on the pitch or in terms of trophies but we were a proper football club and there was a great connection between club and fan base even in the times we struggled which imo is rare in the modern game. Football is the highlight of many people’s weeks, I’m not ashamed to admit it can often be the highlight of mine. He’s ripped that from us, I can no longer say it can ever be that to me we’re tragic, utterly tragic. For 10 years we’ve depended on some rough diamond we picked up for cheap turning into a player, then when they do we’ve essentially depended on them to carry the whole team as opposed to building anything around them. I don’t even enjoy watching us anymore, watching players as devoid of any talent such as Joselu plod around the pitch just isn’t football. There’s no passion surrounding the club, no buzz, no excitement, and there hasn’t been since the first year he bought us, before he decided to drive the club into its first calamities by attempting to disgrace club legends. I used to love watching football, but honestly my whole passion for it has subsided. I don’t even bother watching Champions League games or keeping track of most scores. I quite regularly have no idea of the placing of other PL sides, as what’s the point? We’re going to be struggling to keep our heads above water like the little, irrelevant, tin pot club we have become. My whole feeling was summed up this week, I was listening to a podcast and when they were discussing Man Utds comeback win against us one of the pundits said “yeah but I mean it was only Newcastle” it wasn’t an attempted dig, it was just the truth and I took no offense or exception to it, the bloke was spot on. That’s exactly what we are, a club that every team in the league will see as a winnable game. If you told me all this 10 years ago I’d feel sick to my stomach but now I just don’t care, he’s sucked any soul or passion out of Newcastle United Football Club. What is this all for? What on Earth is the purpose? If it was money he could quite easily make far more elsewhere, if it was advertising he could have spent all he’s invested on far higher profile advertising. I think overall it’s been negative to his company, clearly his image, and obviously the football club. It’ll be a shame to see Rafa Benitez go, his reign has once and for all proven Ashley will never care about the club, if ever he was going to invest it would be when he had a world class manager at the helm. Instead yet another legend of football has been embarrassed, degraded, and pushed out in an insulting and disgraceful way. That’s Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 they would be hounding this cunt out at liverpool, manure, and even west ham. We would have 15/20 years ago. Our fan base has changed so much. Staggering how he can sit there unchallenged after all he's done. Staggering until you remember the type of fan who goes nowadays Yeah was in some proper angry protests in the 89 relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Fate was sealed as soon as they made it clear that they prioritised making a much money as possible in the summer as opposed to pushing it forward. The dominoes have toppled very predictably and the cash will be given to the next boss to get us promoted. We know how this will pan out. Round and round and round we go. I wish Rafa wasn't such a thoroughly decent man and told Ashley where to stick his profit before walking once the transfer window shut. This season will be like losing a loved one to cancer, as the 'atmosphere' at St James' proves, when it should have been a full on anti-Ashley revolt. Such a strange status quo and I fear people will turn on Rafa before they turn on Ashley. If they do that will be the final nail in the coffin as far as my interest in this damn football club goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Fate was sealed as soon as they made it clear that they prioritised making a much money as possible in the summer as opposed to pushing it forward. The dominoes have toppled very predictably and the cash will be given to the next boss to get us promoted. We know how this will pan out. Round and round and round we go. I wish Rafa wasn't such a thoroughly decent man and told Ashley where to stick his profit before walking once the transfer window shut. This season will be like losing a loved one to cancer, as the 'atmosphere' at St James' proves, when it should have been a full on anti-Ashley revolt. Such a strange status quo and I fear people will turn on Rafa before they turn on Ashley. If they do that will be the final nail in the coffin as far as my interest in this damn football club goes. Rafa has to pay Ashley £3m if he quits before his contract ends, I'm guessing it's just that which is stopping him from walking imo now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Fate was sealed as soon as they made it clear that they prioritised making a much money as possible in the summer as opposed to pushing it forward. The dominoes have toppled very predictably and the cash will be given to the next boss to get us promoted. We know how this will pan out. Round and round and round we go. I wish Rafa wasn't such a thoroughly decent man and told Ashley where to stick his profit before walking once the transfer window shut. This season will be like losing a loved one to cancer, as the 'atmosphere' at St James' proves, when it should have been a full on anti-Ashley revolt. Such a strange status quo and I fear people will turn on Rafa before they turn on Ashley. If they do that will be the final nail in the coffin as far as my interest in this damn football club goes. will the same fans, be chuffed with a promotion next season, and believe we will invest and show ambition once we are back up? heard one say we would invest 200mil on total sport at the end of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Copied the following post from toontastic and it sums the situation up perfectly for me. For those of us who were around following NUFC in the 70s, 80s and 90s this current situation has officially killed off the NUFC we grew up with and its not coming back either. I simply dont identify with the people who go to SJP anymore. Anyway, onto that copied post..... I don’t think this is a knee jerk to a poor result at home to a weak side but I feel like Ashley has finally pushed firmly down on the pillow and suffocated this club this season after a decade of holding it just above the club’s nose. The club has been utterly destroyed, we were a great football club, not necessarily on the pitch or in terms of trophies but we were a proper football club and there was a great connection between club and fan base even in the times we struggled which imo is rare in the modern game. Football is the highlight of many people’s weeks, I’m not ashamed to admit it can often be the highlight of mine. He’s ripped that from us, I can no longer say it can ever be that to me we’re tragic, utterly tragic. For 10 years we’ve depended on some rough diamond we picked up for cheap turning into a player, then when they do we’ve essentially depended on them to carry the whole team as opposed to building anything around them. I don’t even enjoy watching us anymore, watching players as devoid of any talent such as Joselu plod around the pitch just isn’t football. There’s no passion surrounding the club, no buzz, no excitement, and there hasn’t been since the first year he bought us, before he decided to drive the club into its first calamities by attempting to disgrace club legends. I used to love watching football, but honestly my whole passion for it has subsided. I don’t even bother watching Champions League games or keeping track of most scores. I quite regularly have no idea of the placing of other PL sides, as what’s the point? We’re going to be struggling to keep our heads above water like the little, irrelevant, tin pot club we have become. My whole feeling was summed up this week, I was listening to a podcast and when they were discussing Man Utds comeback win against us one of the pundits said “yeah but I mean it was only Newcastle” it wasn’t an attempted dig, it was just the truth and I took no offense or exception to it, the bloke was spot on. That’s exactly what we are, a club that every team in the league will see as a winnable game. If you told me all this 10 years ago I’d feel sick to my stomach but now I just don’t care, he’s sucked any soul or passion out of Newcastle United Football Club. What is this all for? What on Earth is the purpose? If it was money he could quite easily make far more elsewhere, if it was advertising he could have spent all he’s invested on far higher profile advertising. I think overall it’s been negative to his company, clearly his image, and obviously the football club. It’ll be a shame to see Rafa Benitez go, his reign has once and for all proven Ashley will never care about the club, if ever he was going to invest it would be when he had a world class manager at the helm. Instead yet another legend of football has been embarrassed, degraded, and pushed out in an insulting and disgraceful way. That’s Newcastle United. Great post and spot on. That might be worth sharing online and seeing if it will go viral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 they would be hounding this cunt out at liverpool, manure, and even west ham. We would have 15/20 years ago. Our fan base has changed so much. Staggering how he can sit there unchallenged after all he's done. Staggering until you remember the type of fan who goes nowadays Yeah was in some proper angry protests in the 89 relegation. Yeah even in 2006 after the sheff utd game there was big post match protests. 12 years on and the type of fan has changed. As the cracking post above says, I think it's dead. Even if we got took over I don't identify with the people who go to SJP now. Least I have the memories of when I had a season ticket 97-04 when we were a proper club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Is there a more damning statement about the Ashley era? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 The day this cunt gets his grubby mits off our club, i'm celebrating like a mad man. Fuck off Mike you fat cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I genuinely have never cared as little about football, as I do at the moment. Newcastle, England, etc... it all stems from the absolutely horrendous situation that the club I have followed since childhood, has been run in to the ground with absolutely no care in the world attached. It just sickens me what a world class manager we have in charge, yet he is shackled by a completely inept owner. That tweet above just sums everything up - nothing more needs to be added to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Is there a more damning statement about the Ashley era? Nail on the head. It's all so frustratingly depressing. We're in a perpetual state of footballing misery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is shit and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is shit and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is shit and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. Nail hit on head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is shit and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. ? Excellent post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is s*** and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. Nail head on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is s*** and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. Combination of hitting thing and fixing thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is s*** and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. Spot on. Mind if I nick this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Please feel free to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Brilliant summation. Well said mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is s*** and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. Nailed it. Exactly the feelings I had when I cancelled my season ticket in August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I will never tell people off for going to watch. What I would say is that the “support your side through thick and thin” unwritten rule is - surely - based on the premise that your club is trying to win; or at least compete. Call me Vulcan or autistic or pretentious or weird, but in my mind if he treats my club as a business; then I will respond like a customer. The product is shit and I won’t invest my time and money. That’s what I’d ask our match-going fans to think about. He’s changed the parameters of the very notion of supporting a club. Reacting the same way you always have - which is entirely admirable in some respects - no longer appears logical, intelligent, productive or even appropriate. Said similar in another thread, in fewer words of course Spot on and my thoughts exactly, only I would have a go at those attending and have done so and will continue to do so. I would never attack the old timers nor families going together or groups of bairns, but the Soccer Am brigade can fuck off. The majority of those types that attend SJP are the same type of person who will pay to watch Anthony Joshua/Colin McGregor fight, but would otherwise show no interest in the sport of boxing at any other time before or after, but give it the big I am while it’s on. Who dress up on Halloween to hit the Toon in an elaborate look at me way. Who do the same on St Patrick’s day or Black Eyed Friday. People who go to an Ed Sheeren concert despite having heard none of his songs or own any of his albums. Whose whole social life needs elevated by an event, be it a boxing match or NUFC vs whoever or something as dumb as Halloween. We have tens of thousands of those week in week out male and female who consider going to the match to watch Newcastle United as an elevation of their social life and go because it’s trendy and popular. It’s not just at St. James’ Park though, this breed of ‘fan’ can be found in the thousands at every Premier League stadium whose number grows following a World Cup. And I fucking hate them because they’ve replaced passionate people, people who go because it’s their club, because they love football. People who would jump rows to have a go at Mike Ashley. Replaced by customers who’ve bought into the product that is a game of Premier league football. The product doesn’t even have to be that good, it’s Premier League football. It’s Man City in Toon. I’m convinced a few seasons outside of the Premier League will see those ‘fans’ disppear in the tens of thousands, sadly though the hardcore fans they’ve replaced will probably never return. Some of them, people I know personally, are too busy having fun at the ‘Heed or doing something worthwhile with their lives on a weekend. By the way I’m not claiming I’m some super fan or more of a fan than those I’m attacking, I’m not. But I guarantee I care more about my club than a lot of them ever have, do and likely will, and as a result I’m prepared to make a stand, be it as an individual or by supporting those that care likewise and are making a stand too. A lot of fans who go to the match today NUFC is an extension to their social life or status and many do so out of popularism. If NUFC were where the mackems are now, they wouldn’t be around. I would if the owner had the club’s best interests at heart and he, the manager and players gave their all for the cause enough to make me proud and give me hope. All that is dead today for me. Rafa or no Rafa, Premier League or Championship. I’d honestly take NUFC being relegated all the way to the conference if it ridded us of all traces of Mike Ashley and Sports Direct and I say that with such conviction having went to and enjoyed more Gateshead FC matches in the last 11 years than I’ve attended NUFC games and those I have attended even ones we’ve won I’ve not fully enjoyed because any joy quickly gets sucked out of you and replaced with misery knowing Mike Ashley is our owner. Crash and burn baby! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Copied the following post from toontastic and it sums the situation up perfectly for me. For those of us who were around following NUFC in the 70s, 80s and 90s this current situation has officially killed off the NUFC we grew up with and its not coming back either. I simply dont identify with the people who go to SJP anymore. Anyway, onto that copied post..... I don’t think this is a knee jerk to a poor result at home to a weak side but I feel like Ashley has finally pushed firmly down on the pillow and suffocated this club this season after a decade of holding it just above the club’s nose. The club has been utterly destroyed, we were a great football club, not necessarily on the pitch or in terms of trophies but we were a proper football club and there was a great connection between club and fan base even in the times we struggled which imo is rare in the modern game. Football is the highlight of many people’s weeks, I’m not ashamed to admit it can often be the highlight of mine. He’s ripped that from us, I can no longer say it can ever be that to me we’re tragic, utterly tragic. For 10 years we’ve depended on some rough diamond we picked up for cheap turning into a player, then when they do we’ve essentially depended on them to carry the whole team as opposed to building anything around them. I don’t even enjoy watching us anymore, watching players as devoid of any talent such as Joselu plod around the pitch just isn’t football. There’s no passion surrounding the club, no buzz, no excitement, and there hasn’t been since the first year he bought us, before he decided to drive the club into its first calamities by attempting to disgrace club legends. I used to love watching football, but honestly my whole passion for it has subsided. I don’t even bother watching Champions League games or keeping track of most scores. I quite regularly have no idea of the placing of other PL sides, as what’s the point? We’re going to be struggling to keep our heads above water like the little, irrelevant, tin pot club we have become. My whole feeling was summed up this week, I was listening to a podcast and when they were discussing Man Utds comeback win against us one of the pundits said “yeah but I mean it was only Newcastle” it wasn’t an attempted dig, it was just the truth and I took no offense or exception to it, the bloke was spot on. That’s exactly what we are, a club that every team in the league will see as a winnable game. If you told me all this 10 years ago I’d feel sick to my stomach but now I just don’t care, he’s sucked any soul or passion out of Newcastle United Football Club. What is this all for? What on Earth is the purpose? If it was money he could quite easily make far more elsewhere, if it was advertising he could have spent all he’s invested on far higher profile advertising. I think overall it’s been negative to his company, clearly his image, and obviously the football club. It’ll be a shame to see Rafa Benitez go, his reign has once and for all proven Ashley will never care about the club, if ever he was going to invest it would be when he had a world class manager at the helm. Instead yet another legend of football has been embarrassed, degraded, and pushed out in an insulting and disgraceful way. That’s Newcastle United. tl;dr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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