The Prophet Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I'm not sure he could premeditated in time he had to react like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 There's nothing about "unnatural position" in the rules at all. Looks to me like he keeps the arm in that position as he jumps. The left arm goes up. He knows what he’s doing there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 More a pen the more I watch the replays. That's the point isn't it? You're not watching it at full speed. Interestingly, the VAR rules very clearly state that when judging whether or not a handball is deliberate (rather than 'did it hit the hand at all?') it should only be viewed at full speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Why are refs being instructed to care about things like unnatural position when the rule is still literally deliberate handball? Its a farce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 0:15 to 0:18 here. He moves his right arm out slightly, he jumps and his left arm comes up...yet the right arm doesn’t move barely at all. Looks blatant to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 0:15 to 0:18 here. He moves his right arm out slightly, he jumps and his left arm comes up...yet the right arm doesn’t move barely at all. Looks blatant to me. 0:03-0:04 he fucking belts it at him from 4 yards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 And it doesn't even hit his hand at first, it hits the top of his thigh and bounces up. Knew what he was doing clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Slow motion is horrendous for making handball decisions. Bloke gets a ball blasted at him for 3 yards, sticks out his arm slightly and it looks like its premeditated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I'm personally of the opinion that it happened to PSG so therefore it's a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 0:15 to 0:18 here. He moves his right arm out slightly, he jumps and his left arm comes up...yet the right arm doesn’t move barely at all. Looks blatant to me. 0:03-0:04 he fucking belts it at him from 4 yards. The defender jumps towards the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Nut has to be on the wind up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 0:15 to 0:18 here. He moves his right arm out slightly, he jumps and his left arm comes up...yet the right arm doesn’t move barely at all. Looks blatant to me. 0:03-0:04 he f***ing belts it at him from 4 yards. The defender jumps towards the ball. No shit Sherlock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 When I used to play more often if I saw the ball coming towards me I’d keep my arms down if I thought the ball would hit it because it looked at speed like it was an accident. It was always deliberate. That’s what Kimbempe looks like he’s done to me. He’s jumped and once he’s seen the direction of the ball, kept his hand there thinking he could get away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Clutching at straws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 When I used to play more often if I saw the ball coming towards me I’d keep my arms down if I thought the ball would hit it because it looked at speed like it was an accident. It was always deliberate. That’s what Kimbempe looks like he’s done to me. He’s jumped and once he’s seen the direction of the ball, kept his hand there thinking he could get away with it. You do realise the time between the ball leaving his foot and hitting Kimpembe is about 1/20th of a second? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Few former refs saying not a pen. God knows what Peter Walton was on about then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Never a penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Few former refs saying not a pen. God knows what Peter Walton was on about then. Refs on telly are absolute cowards, terrified of saying a ref got a decision wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 When I used to play more often if I saw the ball coming towards me I’d keep my arms down if I thought the ball would hit it because it looked at speed like it was an accident. It was always deliberate. That’s what Kimbempe looks like he’s done to me. He’s jumped and once he’s seen the direction of the ball, kept his hand there thinking he could get away with it. You do realise the time between the ball leaving his foot and hitting Kimpembe is about 1/20th of a second? The defender has time to watch the ball and its direction, then makes a movement where one arm goes up, and the other just happens to stay exactly where the ball is going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackandWhite Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Few former refs saying not a pen. God knows what Peter Walton was on about then. Refs on telly are absolute cowards, terrified of saying a ref got a decision wrong This. And on the rare occasion when they do say the ref got it wrong they come up with some defense like ‘but the number 2 blocks the refs view,the ball and play travels so fast I can see why he made that decision” or some other nonsense. They are afraid if they criticize a ref their overloads at the FA will give out to them and spank their bottoms. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Billy Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Buzzing. Never a pen. Don't give a fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Said it earlier, but seeing it again more and more solidifies my thought His arm starts here Turns his back, extends his arm and spreads/open his hand He's trying to make himself bigger to block the shot, and it hit his arm. Can't have any complaints imo. Think it was one of those where it was more instinct than actual thought about it (due to the speed of it happening), but still a deliberate movement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 But it happened in 0.02 of a second and he didn’t catch it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Your arms do tend to move when you jump like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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