Optimistic Nut Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The shit laws as it stands means it wouldn’t be. I do think this was intentional though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Intention should not be the overriding factor. Kimpenbe was blocking a shot and he blocked it using his hands. Either intentional or unintentional this was a critical factor affecting the shot which potentially could be a goal. Penalty all day long for me. The “unintentional” factor doesn’t apply in this case. Just ignoring the football rules there aren't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The ball is blasted at him from close range. The shot looks like it's going off target. His back is turned to the ball. His arms aren't in an unnatural position. The ball hits his leg, bounces up and hits arm. If it's a penalty we might as well just do away with ball to hand altogether. There must be some seriously rapid thinkers and movers in this thread, we're talking fractions of a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 It was 5-6 yards, goalkeepers make reaction saves from that distance. There’s still time from him striking the ball, and Kimpembe making an instinctive reaction to keep his arm low while the other arm goes up. That’s my opinion and based on experience too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 He’s looking at the ball until the last moment so that he can try and get his body in the right position to block the ball, not just so he can get his arm in the way. As he then turns his arms are in the absolute natural position. It wasn’t a penalty imo but as soon as the ref was made aware of it by VAR officials it was always going to be given. I think the defender’s reaction was that he knew it had hit his arm and perhaps he felt he could have tried more to get his arm out of the way. Does that mean you have to do all possible to avoid contact with your arm (so they are no longer in a natural position) and not just have it in a natural position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I'm out All I can say is we're going to see a lot of hand ball based penalties if we're going down this road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 based on experience too. Experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Many a Reds v Blues/NOFC epic encounter did I get away with a slyly disguised handball man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Many a Reds v Blues/NOFC epic encounter did I get away with a slyly disguised handball man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 But in the ref’s mind it is a clear error. He’s missed what in his eyes is a handball. Without discussing the merits of the decision, again, watch Kimpembe’s reaction. If he felt he didn’t handle the ball on purpose his reaction wouldn’t be to slump and put his head in his hands. He’d have been furious given that it’s effectively knocked them out. You are insane Of course he knows it hit his arm ffs. That's not what people are discussing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 ‘On purpose’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6779733/The-referee-RIGHT-call-awarding-Man-Utd-penalty.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6779733/The-referee-RIGHT-call-awarding-Man-Utd-penalty.html Comical you can have one set of rules for referees in one competition than another, pretty sure FiFA say rules have to be globally applied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 People will be divided on it. In my opinion it can't be a pen because only superman would have had the reactions to get out of the way of it. It's so harsh. Not as harsh as losing 10 first team players to injury of course. PSG should have come out and destroyed us but they didn't create enough or have enough urgency against a makeshift squad full of teenagers and reserves playing an unfamiliar formation. They were deservedly beaten. Fuck them as well. A nothing club successful due to oil. Still buzzing. We brought on Chong and Greenwood away to PSG to try and win. Hopefully have everyone back for the next round. PSG controlled the play so it shows we're still quite far off the elite but we're moving in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 People will be divided on it. In my opinion it can't be a pen because only superman would have had the reactions to get out of the way of it. It's so harsh. Not as harsh as losing 10 first team players to injury of course. PSG should have come out and destroyed us but they didn't create enough or have enough urgency against a makeshift squad full of teenagers and reserves playing an unfamiliar formation. They were deservedly beaten. Fuck them as well. A nothing club successful due to oil. Still buzzing. We brought on Chong and Greenwood away to PSG to try and win. Hopefully have everyone back for the next round. PSG controlled the play so it shows we're still quite far off the elite but we're moving in the right direction. I think you'd showed PSG up tbh, they are really lacking when pressure is on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 They were clearly the better side they just have no balls. Those mistakes came from nerves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 They were clearly the better side they just have no balls. Those mistakes came from nerves. Was some terrible mistakes. Also, I'd find it funny if Man U won it all if it wasn't for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I thought we had turned a corner Flip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Ben Arfa v Arsenal tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I thought we had turned a corner Flip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Ben Arfa v Arsenal tonight. V emery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Would love a Tadic-esque performance from HBA at the Emirates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 BT seem to think this is a champions league game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 State of that Man U team, really can't see them turning this around. Shut up you stupid twat. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Game over. Ah well, was fun for 5 mins. Hope they win 13-1 now. Been coming, game over. Heh. Football is the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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