Sean Longstaff

[TRC]

1 hour ago, Mikky said:

The summer will tell us more about Howe tbh - it’s where it gets difficult for him because the expectations will be higher, rivals will improve - we simply cannot carry people now 

It will be interesting to know what the expectations are next year. It has to be pushing for a top 4 spot.

[LFEE]

40 minutes ago, TRC said:

It will be interesting to know what the expectations are next year. It has to be pushing for a top 4 spot.

Eales spelt it out only a few weeks ago 

 

Regular Top 6 and pushing to try and win trophies. 

[TRC]

Just now, LFEE said:

Eales spelt it out only a few weeks ago 

 

Regular Top 6 and pushing to try and win trophies. 

I must have missed it. I think top 4 is a real opportunity with no Klopp. Chelsea and Man U I think we should be better than. Villa can't maintain this and need a drop off at some point.

 

Arsenal and City have 2 spots locked next season, the other 2 are anyones.

[LFEE]

1 minute ago, TRC said:

I must have missed it. I think top 4 is a real opportunity with no Klopp. Chelsea and Man U I think we should be better than. Villa can't maintain this and need a drop off at some point.

 

Arsenal and City have 2 spots locked next season, the other 2 are anyones.

Not sure why you think we SHOULD be better than Man Utd & Chelsea next season. Chelsea should be a more settled environment as should Man Utd. Emery has just extended so can’t see much change with them other than probably having two of their better players return from ACLs.

 

We’ve a chance of course if we get behind EH and make 3 smart signings and I agree Liverpool could have a wobble of a season. Spurs will make interesting viewing. Have a funny feeling the Ange love affair might end come Xmas depending on their start. 

[TRC]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Not sure why you think we SHOULD be better than Man Utd & Chelsea next season. Chelsea should be a more settled environment as should Man Utd. Emery has just extended so can’t see much change with them other than probably having two of their better players return from ACLs.

 

We’ve a chance of course if we get behind EH and make 3 smart signings and I agree Liverpool could have a wobble of a season. Spurs will make interesting viewing. Have a funny feeling the Ange love affair might end come Xmas depending on their start. 

Both of those teams will probably have a new manager and go through another transition year with a lot of squad turnover, both teams have a higher ceiling than us but they also have a much lower floor. I see us as a steady 65-75 point team next year with both of those between 60-85 I would be shocked if they both hit the upper end of that.

[LFEE]

2 minutes ago, TRC said:

Both of those teams will probably have a new manager and go through another transition year with a lot of squad turnover, both teams have a higher ceiling than us but they also have a much lower floor. I see us as a steady 65-75 point team next year with both of those between 60-85 I would be shocked if they both hit the upper end of that.

Well we’ll see. Chelsea hard to predict but would’ve thought they’d have little appetite to change again. Man Utd will depend I feel on how quick they get Ashworth. If he’s still with us I’ve a feeling they may look around and feel better the devil you know with ETH. Especially if the fans get a whiff the alternative is Southgate or Potter.

 

Whatever happens it’s going to be another fascinating season both ends of the table.

[TRon]

13 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Not sure why you think we SHOULD be better than Man Utd & Chelsea next season. Chelsea should be a more settled environment as should Man Utd. Emery has just extended so can’t see much change with them other than probably having two of their better players return from ACLs.

 

We’ve a chance of course if we get behind EH and make 3 smart signings and I agree Liverpool could have a wobble of a season. Spurs will make interesting viewing. Have a funny feeling the Ange love affair might end come Xmas depending on their start. 

 

I agree, I don't really think we should have any expectations for top 4, if we get it, it will be through better coaching and stability than any other reason. Man U and Chelsea have invested far more in their squad, they really are underperforming considering their outlay. Our problem is we don't have the sheer numbers of quality players to call on, that much has been evident in games like last night. A few injuries and we are dusting down our ex-championship players and chucking them into the mix.

[TRC]

8 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Well we’ll see. Chelsea hard to predict but would’ve thought they’d have little appetite to change again. Man Utd will depend I feel on how quick they get Ashworth. If he’s still with us I’ve a feeling they may look around and feel better the devil you know with ETH. Especially if the fans get a whiff the alternative is Southgate or Potter.

 

Whatever happens it’s going to be another fascinating season both ends of the table.

With the teams coming up it could be the strongest PL we have ever had. Can't see there being any absolute fodder like this season.

[Terrymac1966]

If Longstaff starts in August we have had a bad summer ?

[LFEE]

7 minutes ago, TRC said:

With the teams coming up it could be the strongest PL we have ever had. Can't see there being any absolute fodder like this season.

 

The fodder like Everton who took 4 points of us? Luton who took 4 points of us? Or maybe Forrest who took 3 points of us? Hopefully we don’t come unstuck against SU and Burnley.

[TRC]

2 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

The fodder like Everton who took 4 points of us? Luton who took 4 points of us? Or maybe Forrest who took 3 points of us? Hopefully we don’t come unstuck against SU and Burnley.

I was talking about Luton, SU and Burnley only. It's criminal Luton took 4 points off us.

[mighty__mag]

When you consider Palace payed only 18.5m for Wharton at 19,

I'd dare guess they won't have paid in full yet, he looked like Rodri compared to Longstaff, he could easily have signed for us. Clubs just aren't brave where others are, if you um and ahh about it other clubs will swoop in big or small, and snap these players up.

Palace have done well with both Wharton and Franca, Wharton being the obvious more ready and more suited to the English game and slotting in their side nicely, he looks very promising. 

 

Can't understand sometimes how we don't bid or get involved in some of these deals.

But continue to have dross on the books.

[TRC]

4 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

When you consider Palace payed only 18.5m for Wharton at 19,

I'd dare guess they won't have paid in full yet, he looked like Rodri compared to Longstaff, he could easily have signed for us. Clubs just aren't brave where others are, if you um and ahh about it other clubs will swoop in big or small, and snap these players up.

Palace have done well with both Wharton and Franca, Wharton being the obvious more ready and more suited to the English game and slotting in their side nicely, he looks very promising. 

 

Can't understand sometimes how we don't bid or get involved in some of these deals.

But continue to have dross on the books.

I forgot they had Franca. They have been awesome in the transfer market and getting Glasner. 

 

Maybe we should take their DOF?

[mighty__mag]

2 minutes ago, TRC said:

I forgot they had Franca. They have been awesome in the transfer market and getting Glasner. 

 

Maybe we should take their DOF?

 

Well you need to look back to our dealings pre season, we could have gone in for Wharton in the same way we did for Lewis Hall since we've hardly used the lad.

Our recruitment in the summer could have been done a lot differently, don't get me wrong I rate Barnes and Livramento, but most of our signings were priced really high, with Hall still costing 30m, we're looking close to 170m on five players, Hall,Tino,Barnes,Tonali,Minteh.

 

Then there's these so called lesser/unproven players ready to be taken.

Obviously a database exists and lists with preferences to targets and what fits the managers needs, both Franca and Wharton were clearly down the pecking order, but you never know what your seasons going to deal you, I'd bet my right hand, knowing what Howe does now, he'd certainly have been keen on having one of those players here.

 

But, like they say, hindsight is a wonderful thing. ?

 

 

[Guest]

[Miggys First Goal]

Something not right with this lad’s footballing ability. 

[kingxlnc]

Sell. His time is done.

[Guybrush]

Needs support rather than the grief he gets like. He's one of us. 

 

 

Edited April 27, 2024 by Guybrush

[arnonel]

Hayden > Longstaff 

[Barnes23]

Quote

 

For Longstaff, this has now been a full year of discomfort, far from ideal for someone whose game is based on ceaseless running. It is not just matches; it affects the day-to-day. “Sean needs to train regularly to get his best rhythm and that’s been disrupted,” Howe said.

 

“I’ll always put the team ahead of myself and people will either see that and appreciate it or they won’t,” says Longstaff 

Longstaff ploughs forward. “We played at Everton last April and I basically broke my foot,” he says. “I played in the last home game of the season (a draw with Leicester, which secured Champions League qualification), when it was still pretty much broken and then, because of that, it didn’t heal properly.

 

“We came back for pre-season and we bring Sandro in and it’s like … well, you don’t want to lose your spot in the team. I did lose it because I wasn’t fully fit and then went through a spell where it got better and I got back into the team and thought I was playing really well. Then I got injured again at Bournemouth in November.

 

“It was a 10-week ankle injury and I came back in four. It’s hard enough playing with one bad foot, but when you’ve got a left foot that’s sore and a right ankle that doesn’t move properly, it’s never going to be the easiest, especially at this level. It is what it is. I’ll always put the team ahead of myself and people will either see that and appreciate it or they won’t.”

 

Longtaff had an injection last month to keep playing, to keep running. West Ham on March 30 was “the first time in a while I’ve been excited to come and play, just because I know I wasn’t going to be in pain.”

 

 

Just a timely reminder from several pages back. 

[mikejaxer]

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since he's been forcing himself to play through an injury all season.

[worthy]

Ill rather fucking have Hayden playing every game, even if Hayden is injured. Longstaff is close to useless.

[vic]

Match rating of 2.90 on BBC website.

[Whitley mag]

Our fanbase in a nutshell on twitter 2 faced cunt

 

https://x.com/ToonMouthTyne/status/1783464436361027740

https://x.com/ToonMouthTyne/status/1784263442653667677

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I just think he’s not a good player in this league. No offence to the lad. Tonali was meant to be his replacement.