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He was part of the group that turned shit around for us. So im thankful for his service here and no hard feelings from me even though i have been critical earlier. 

Clearly time to move on now and I hope he finds a club where he can fulfill his potential.

 

 

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This team is evolving, the ceiling is being raised so high that it's painfully obvious when you see a player who is no longer "Newcastle quality". We're now operating at a level that's beyond Longstaff.

 

I'll always be grateful for his efforts, especially during the dark Bruce days and all the shit he went through because of that slug. 

 

He's more than good enough for the majority of PL teams, so I hope he gets a good move but if we are gonna be the team we think we can be, Longstaff isn't good enough to be a part of it

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1 minute ago, GallowgatePigeon said:

This team is evolving, the ceiling is being raised so high that it's painfully obvious when you see a player who is no longer "Newcastle quality". We're now operating at a level that's beyond Longstaff.

 

I'll always be grateful for his efforts, especially during the dark Bruce days and all the shit he went through because of that slug. 

 

He's more than good enough for the majority of PL teams, so I hope he gets a good move but if we are gonna be the team we think we can be, Longstaff isn't good enough to be a part of it

Im not sure he should go to another PL club. Think maybe he needs some without having all that pressure on him. If he gets off to a bad start and the fans turn against him its hard to see him come back from that.

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43 minutes ago, GallowgatePigeon said:

This team is evolving, the ceiling is being raised so high that it's painfully obvious when you see a player who is no longer "Newcastle quality". We're now operating at a level that's beyond Longstaff.


It’s more the floor than the ceiling which is affecting Sean unfortunately. 

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1 hour ago, Displayname said:

He was part of the group that turned shit around for us. So im thankful for his service here and no hard feelings from me even though i have been critical earlier. 

Clearly time to move on now and I hope he finds a club where he can fullfil his potential.

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6 hours ago, LFEE said:


You said that about Murphy :lol:

 

I don’t get moaning at the ground at our own players personally. In the history of football there are very few examples of when it’s been productive :lol:


I try not to moan at him in the ground. 
 

I did say that about Murphy, but if there’s anyone here who believed he could reach the levels he’s at now I would like to meet them. Possibly Eddie Howe is the only man alive who thought that. 

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6 hours ago, LFEE said:


You said that about Murphy :lol:

 

I don’t get moaning at the ground at our own players personally. In the history of football there are very few examples of when it’s been productive :lol:


This. People forget he started the season well and put in some very solid performances.

 

He’s obviously not world class but is such a canny lad with no ego; puts the team first and won’t kick up a fuss if he’s not starting. Doesn’t deserve the hate he’s getting.

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I agree with the sentiments that he struggles more coming off the bench it seems, as it looks like it takes a while for him to get up to speed with things when he comes on.

 

He's not going to have the opportunity to start games or play as many minutes as he has previously when he was starting, and so can't see things getting better, if he needs major minutes to get into a rhythm.

 

There's been a nervous, panicky feeling about his play when he comes on recently that is really uncomfortable to watch.

 

Shame he can't figure out a way to adjust to coming off the bench and being more of a squad player, as he could have been a solid no nonsense player to throw on to tighten things up and just keep things simple in possession, but he's even struggling with those basics.

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


I try not to moan at him in the ground. 
 

I did say that about Murphy, but if there’s anyone here who believed he could reach the levels he’s at now I would like to meet them. Possibly Eddie Howe is the only man alive who thought that. 

 

Well you’ve met me plenty of times? ;) 

 

How many times did i tell you? Best crosser of the ball at the club particularly on the run. Cannon of a shot just needed to avoid hitting post every time. One of fastest players in the club. Eye for a defence splitting pass. “Give him a clearly defined role in the team that simplifies his game and with his unselfishness he will create chances and score a few goals”.

 

He’s never going to be a skilful winger that can dribble, nor a physical one that can bully full backs. His future replacement might be able to do all that too but there might be trade offs too. Wingers will be wingers. History proves that.

 

Not really disagreeing that the midfield we are trying to construct has outgrown Longstaff. However surviving a relegation and having a more disciplined structure whilst we tried to win games with clean sheets getting us to 4th he was a very big part of that. With more support from the crowd he had the potential to build on that a bit further if not loads further.

 

Sadly his confidence from lack of crowd support has gone now and his last few appearances usually coming on after Miley are those of a player who knows their time is up. Which is a shame for a local lad living his dream also watching Murphy finally being embraced. To get us up to 10/11th from near relegation then 4th and then 7th in a depleted midfield, first cup final in 20+years. He must’ve been doing something well. 

 

Hopefully the fans can bring themselves to give him a good send off likely against Everton and thank him for working with the club and hopefully getting us some PSR leverage.

 

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Losing Longstaff in the summer means another CM has got to come in. Given Wilson also needs replacing and Willock is in a similar place to Longstaff it’s really going to stretch the budgets

 

I don’t think it’s feasible for both Willock and Longstaff to leave in the summer, too much risk in losing both, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Longstaff sees out his contract, but we shall see. 

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42 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

Losing Longstaff in the summer means another CM has got to come in. Given Wilson also needs replacing and Willock is in a similar place to Longstaff it’s really going to stretch the budgets

 

I don’t think it’s feasible for both Willock and Longstaff to leave in the summer, too much risk in losing both, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Longstaff sees out his contract, but we shall see. 

 

Willock will remain unless a bid comes in that makes us stand up and take notice. He at least still impacts games when he comes on with his dribbling with the ball from CM, and he's contract ends 2027 so we can play around a year. 

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2 hours ago, KaKa said:

I agree with the sentiments that he struggles more coming off the bench it seems, as it looks like it takes a while for him to get up to speed with things when he comes on.

 

He's not going to have the opportunity to start games or play as many minutes as he has previously when he was starting, and so can't see things getting better, if he needs major minutes to get into a rhythm.

 

There's been a nervous, panicky feeling about his play when he comes on recently that is really uncomfortable to watch.

 

Shame he can't figure out a way to adjust to coming off the bench and being more of a squad player, as he could have been a solid no nonsense player to throw on to tighten things up and just keep things simple in possession, but he's even struggling with those basics.

 

I think he does better when he gets explicit instructions on his role in the game. Which players to mark, where and when to make runs, who to pass to, etc.

When he comes on as a sub he doesn't get the level of instructions and it's usually at the same time that the opposition is making changes too and he can't adapt to those changes on the fly.

He's shown that he's a capable player under Rafa and Howe, both of whom almost certainly give him that level of instruction, but was crap under Bruce and his Let's just kick it about style.

Either way, it's time for him to move on. He's not getting much game time now and doesn't look great when he does get on.  If we ever want to really start to complete for the league we need to be much more ruthless and move on those players that aren't capable of keeping up any more. 

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