Guest reefatoon Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Disagree it was obvious from day one that Benitez had a problem with Mitrovic. Don't know how anybody could rate Joselu mind - the bloke is just totally shocking Eh? Saying that Mitrovic didn't and wouldn't work in this Newcastle team - something that both Rafa and Mitrovic have said themselves - isn't the same as rating Joselu. To be fair, Joselu works even less in this set up because he is absolutely fucking awful as a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I’m actually amazed how relaxed I feel about this. It’s like I’ve stopped even caring. My fantasy league team is my new club to follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Of course he will buy turkeys all managers do. I've got no problem accepting that, do you? Absolutely not, but your doing mental gymnastics to prove that Rondon wasn't his no1 target. Wonder why we went for Plea first if that's the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Oh please. You can set whatever premise you want. Mitrovic is so much better than Joselu in every sense. He'd show it more here too with real backing from the manager and some confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 None. Needs an 80s style riot Surely this apathy from fans is the most heartbreaking thing about today? You have the fat man and his cronies sitting there. It should’ve been toxic for him from the first minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Disagree it was obvious from day one that Benitez had a problem with Mitrovic. Don't know how anybody could rate Joselu mind - the bloke is just totally shocking Eh? Saying that Mitrovic didn't and wouldn't work in this Newcastle team - something that both Rafa and Mitrovic have said themselves - isn't the same as rating Joselu. To be fair, Joselu works even less in this set up because he is absolutely fucking awful as a footballer. Disagree in terms of his hold up play and pressing vs Mitrovic's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 We’re just shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 The point being he has to cut his cloth in accordance to the rags he's given. The players who wanted to be here who he sold were better than the dross that he’s brought in to replace them with. We had a better squad in the championship than we do now. I’m not turning on Rafa but to suggest that he’s not at all responsible is mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I’m actually amazed how relaxed I feel about this. It’s like I’ve stopped even caring. My fantasy league team is my new club to follow. Totally agree with you. Don’t get bothered at all now. The whole lot of it is absolutely lifting and not worth the stress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Disagree it was obvious from day one that Benitez had a problem with Mitrovic. Don't know how anybody could rate Joselu mind - the bloke is just totally shocking Eh? Saying that Mitrovic didn't and wouldn't work in this Newcastle team - something that both Rafa and Mitrovic have said themselves - isn't the same as rating Joselu. To be fair, Joselu works even less in this set up because he is absolutely fucking awful as a footballer. Disagree in terms of his hold up play and pressing vs Mitrovic's. Should play an extra midfielder and no striker tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Even if Rondon was Rafa's number one target, I'm pretty sure having him in at the start of pre-season would have helped. From both fitness and integration perspectives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 i gather it never got any better hate all this , and im not drinking atm. Gayle scored again today ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Grim days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Disagree it was obvious from day one that Benitez had a problem with Mitrovic. Don't know how anybody could rate Joselu mind - the bloke is just totally shocking Eh? Saying that Mitrovic didn't and wouldn't work in this Newcastle team - something that both Rafa and Mitrovic have said themselves - isn't the same as rating Joselu. And Joselu doesn't do it either and that's the point I'm making but Mitrovic for sure offers better control, link up play and goals - even during his time here. Letting Gayle and Mitrovic go and having Rondon and Joselu as his preferred options was the wrong call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 No Dave Rondon is shit and Mitro is on fire end of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Oh please. You can set whatever premise you want. Mitrovic is so much better than Joselu in every sense. He'd show it more here too with real backing from the manager and some confidence. Fair enough if that's your opinion, just as long as you realise that both Rafa and Mitrovic have said exactly the same themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Club is finished man. We're done. What did you do to Kaka? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Of course he will buy turkeys all managers do. I've got no problem accepting that, do you? Absolutely not, but your doing mental gymnastics to prove that Rondon wasn't his no1 target. Wonder why we went for Plea first if that's the case. Plea has 7 goals already this season in the league and cup. Doubt Rondon will get that over the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Checked the score occasionally this afternoon without so much of a flicker of any emotion. Newcastle United is now simply a pointless institution to follow and support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Disagree it was obvious from day one that Benitez had a problem with Mitrovic. Don't know how anybody could rate Joselu mind - the bloke is just totally shocking Eh? Saying that Mitrovic didn't and wouldn't work in this Newcastle team - something that both Rafa and Mitrovic have said themselves - isn't the same as rating Joselu. And Joselu doesn't do it either and that's the point I'm making but Mitrovic for sure offers better control, link up play and goals - even during his time here. Letting Gayle and Mitrovic go and having Rondon and Joselu as his preferred options was the wrong call. If you believe that, that's fair enough, but as far as I can tell Mitrovic's Fulham form is affecting the perception of his time here, in a team set up to not get the best out of him - in my opinion justifiably so, but I can see why others would disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Predicted 1-2, couldn't even get the 1 ffs. Joselu & Diame misses costly. It's not like Newcastle to miss great goalscoring chances then go on to lose the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Of course he will buy turkeys all managers do. I've got no problem accepting that, do you? Absolutely not, but your doing mental gymnastics to prove that Rondon wasn't his no1 target. Wonder why we went for Plea first if that's the case. Plea didn't want to come if you believe his own chairman who said they done a worse deal with Borussia so they could allow him to go there. After that it was Rondon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Of course he will buy turkeys all managers do. I've got no problem accepting that, do you? Absolutely not, but your doing mental gymnastics to prove that Rondon wasn't his no1 target. Wonder why we went for Plea first if that's the case. Plea didn't want to come if you believe his own chairman who said they done a worse deal with Borussia so they could allow him to go there. After that it was Rondon. So Plea was his number 1 target then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Keeping up our Curt Hawkins home streak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Someone tell me Joselu is any way better than Mitro, system or no system Okay. Joselu is better at pressing and holding it up in this system. Mitrovic will tell you the same thing. His hold up play today has been worse than anything Mitro produced. In all of their other matches while at Newcastle, Joselu's has been better. He certian;y hasn't mind the bloke is tter rubbish. He can't run, he can't link play, he can't control the ball and he certainly is not very good at putting the bal into the back of the net either. Nor could Mitro while he was in this team. If we had a team in any way similar to Fulham's I'd possibly agree, but they're chalk and cheese. Disagree it was obvious from day one that Benitez had a problem with Mitrovic. Don't know how anybody could rate Joselu mind - the bloke is just totally shocking Eh? Saying that Mitrovic didn't and wouldn't work in this Newcastle team - something that both Rafa and Mitrovic have said themselves - isn't the same as rating Joselu. And Joselu doesn't do it either and that's the point I'm making but Mitrovic for sure offers better control, link up play and goals - even during his time here. Letting Gayle and Mitrovic go and having Rondon and Joselu as his preferred options was the wrong call. If you believe that, that's fair enough, but as far as I can tell Mitrovic's Fulham form is affecting the perception of his time here, in a team set up to not get the best out of him - in my opinion justifiably so, but I can see why others would disagree. Yeah I disagree totally but as you say different opinions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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