The Prophet Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Over the last couple of years, our attacking numbers have been considerably better when he has played through the middle. It's most likely because his direct running commits defenders and creates space for others. He does have a midtable ceiling though, his decision making and passing range leave a lot to be desired. If and when we get to the level, we'll need an upgrade, but at this moment time he's the least of our problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think it’s a bit much to say Howe is trying to turn us into a possession team right now. Yeah, we are looking to move into space better and receive the ball, but that’s just better football. Getting the keeper to hoof the ball away is just not viable, whatever your overall game plan is. Of course we can’t dominate good teams with the players we have, but they must be capable of one or two passes more than they’ve shown. Countering happens in transition when you win the ball back, there will still be times when you’re starting from the back or a static position, and you can’t just lose the ball every time. Well said. It's not like we're pouring forward in suicidal numbers, we just don't seem to have players who can keep possession very well. It's quite telling that we put Joelinton in the middle and it seems he is able to do it better than the actual midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 stick him in at LWB until we sign a decent one. cant do any worse than Ritchie. can get up and down the pitch with a bit more pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 That would mean playing 3 CB's and we don't even have 3 fit ones never mind that they are all shit. Almiron is a shit none creating none scoring player like Joe, playing them in completely different positions because they are so shit in the actual ones they should be played in is not going to help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Away Toon said: That would mean playing 3 CB's and we don't even have 3 fit ones never mind that they are all shit. Almiron is a shit none creating none scoring player like Joe, playing them in completely different positions because they are so shit in the actual ones they should be played in is not going to help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Away Toon said: That would mean playing 3 CB's and we don't even have 3 fit ones never mind that they are all shit. Almiron is a shit none creating none scoring player like Joe, playing them in completely different positions because they are so shit in the actual ones they should be played in is not going to help. I understand your views regarding Almiron, but using Joelinton as an example isn't the best idea, he's actually looked quite a lot better than the actual midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 It's a pretty low bar to say that Joe is our best midfielder, maybe he is, but the standard is so low it doesn't mean anything. Our current defense and midfield would have us in the shit in the Championship. Joe was bought for a lot of money as a striker or an auxiliary striker, his record is terrible. He's the worst value for money signing we have probably ever made with Almiron probably second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Away Toon said: It's a pretty low bar to say that Joe is our best midfielder, maybe he is, but the standard is so low it doesn't mean anything. Our current defense and midfield would have us in the shit in the Championship. Joe was bought for a lot of money as a striker or an auxiliary striker, his record is terrible. He's the worst value for money signing we have probably ever made with Almiron probably second. Yes it is a pretty low bar, that's because we have been run by Mike Ashley for 14 years where setting the bar low was company policy. Probably also a good reason why Joelinton, supposedly an auxiliary striker has actually turned out to be better in midfield than all of our midfielders. Obviously we set quite a low bar for recruiting midfielders as well. It's not hard to work out how and why we got to such a situation if you need it documented, but I'm sure it's been explained plenty on here already in various threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 He's absolutely dreadful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 That's aimed at Almiron btw, not Joeyt, before the banhammer comes down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Was fine playing in a system. The system we have now? I don't know how we are actually supposed to shape up. You have two wide players Fraser and Asm who play high up the pitch and pretty direct. If they beat their man there's often no one in the middle. Because Shelvey likes to spray a ball early from deep are midfield are nowhere near the front three nor is anyone else. We have 0 presence in midfield if Joelinton isn't playing beast mode. There is no protection for the defence and our full backs often overlap but are seldom played in behind and even if they were there's nothing to aim at. Almiron doesn't fit into the way we are currently playing but I am not sure results would be any worse if he was an ever present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Was he played on the right again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 That shot. That fucking shot. Fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 He's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Rafalove said: Was he played on the right again? He was aye. Fraser stayed on the left. He looked miles off the pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, David Edgar said: That shot. That fucking shot. Fucking hell. That shot was literally handing his notice in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Was fine playing in a system. The system we have now? I don't know how we are actually supposed to shape up. You have two wide players Fraser and Asm who play high up the pitch and pretty direct. If they beat their man there's often no one in the middle. Because Shelvey likes to spray a ball early from deep are midfield are nowhere near the front three nor is anyone else. We have 0 presence in midfield if Joelinton isn't playing beast mode. There is no protection for the defence and our full backs often overlap but are seldom played in behind and even if they were there's nothing to aim at. Almiron doesn't fit into the way we are currently playing but I am not sure results would be any worse if he was an ever present. Always stuck up for the guy due to his run all day style, but no system or position can fix shooting like a 2 year old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Why did he think that shooting there would be a good idea - he can't hit a cows arse with a banjo so what the hell is he doing - everybody is in the box - just knock it back in ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Oh yeah, I'm not saying he's a brilliant footballer by any stretch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Merse said: Why did he think that shooting there would be a good idea - he can't hit a cows arse with a banjo so what the hell is he doing - everybody is in the box - just knock it back in ffs I've never understood that saying, if you saw a cows arse just there, would you think I must get my banjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Disco said: He was aye. Fraser stayed on the left. He looked miles off the pace. Makes no sense playing him there. He has no right foot. It affects his decision making and the way he receives the ball. We have wingers who are just as compfortable on either wing so it makes no sense playing him there. When played cam or lw he’s actually been productive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 He plays like a competition winner Too many touches, no right foot. I don't think he's got a single goal or assist this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 An absolute bag of shit. Was gonna say he's the worst sub I've seen in ages but Willock may have topped him today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Oh yeah, I'm not saying he's a brilliant footballer by any stretch. Almoron I like call him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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