Miguel Almirón (now playing for Atlanta United)

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

11 minutes ago, Menace said:

Almiron would be insane to turn down Saudi wages near the end of his career. He's a very limited player.

unless he ya know likes his life and doesn’t want to live in Saudi. 

[Mike]

Gloomy about this, like.

[duo]

2 hours ago, Menace said:

Almiron would be insane to turn down Saudi wages near the end of his career. He's a very limited player.

Was there ever real interest?  

[PauloGeordio]

Maybe it’s all smoke and mirrors, the lot of it. Helps with us not getting fleeced on incomings 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

What would letting our first choice RW leave in January acheive?  We're not going to be able to replace him with anyone ready to come striaght in you'd doubt. Aye we have Murphy comeing back and Barnes too and Gordon can play RW, but we'd be weakening a position we're not strong in. Makes much more sense to be doing all of this at the end of the season. I know we need bodies in, but we'd need even more by letting people go. Just seems all a bit far fetched to me. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

unless he ya know likes his life and doesn’t want to live in Saudi. 

I'm sure he's fairly comfortable finance wise as well. 

[LFEE]

It was either a Tweet or if I recall a very short post on here a few days ago saying we are hawking Almiron around every Saudi agent. 
 

Probably the most succinct take of what is going on here. Bit of problem that Atlanta have a 20-25% sell on fee for those expecting a windfall.

[duo]

20 minutes ago, LFEE said:

It was either a Tweet or if I recall a very short post on here a few days ago saying we are hawking Almiron around every Saudi agent. 
 

Probably the most succinct take of what is going on here. Bit of problem that Atlanta have a 20-25% sell on fee for those expecting a windfall.

Is that true?

[frankpingel]

Surely it'll be as a % of any profit we make on his sale? So probably £1m or so, if anything.

[LFEE]

44 minutes ago, duo said:

Is that true?

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

Doesn’t matter at all if Atlanta has a sell-on clause or a % of the sale.  The fee is what counts for FFP.  I doubt the owners are arsed about paying Atlanta

[LFEE]

5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Doesn’t matter at all if Atlanta has a sell-on clause or a % of the sale.  The fee is what counts for FFP.  I doubt the owners are arsed about paying Atlanta

Did not realise that. That could be open to abuse.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Doesn’t matter at all if Atlanta has a sell-on clause or a % of the sale.  The fee is what counts for FFP.  I doubt the owners are arsed about paying Atlanta

sorry I don’t think that’s quite true.

 

lets say for simplicity the fee is 100 but 25% goes to Atlanta. We’d only be able to show 75 as our income from the sale and Atlanta will take the other 25

 

we May take the full 100 in cash but we’d have to sent the 25 straight out

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Colos Short and Curlies said:

sorry I don’t think that’s quite true.

 

lets say for simplicity the fee is 100 but 25% goes to Atlanta. We’d only be able to show 75 as our income from the sale and Atlanta will take the other 25

 

we May take the full 100 in cash but we’d have to sent the 25 straight out

I can see I wasn’t clear, apologies - it doesn’t matter what we pay Atlanta; whatever fee we retain is 100% profit for FFP.   

[Displayname]

10 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I can see I wasn’t clear, apologies - it doesn’t matter what we pay Atlanta; whatever fee we retain is 100% profit for FFP.   

Sure about this?

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

Sure about this?

Yes, Almiron’s fee has been fully amortised.  It’s as if he’s an academy product. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Yes, Almiron’s fee has been fully amortised.  It’s as if he’s an academy product. 

 

If we have to pay, say £4m to Atlanta because they're owed it as part of a clause, does that not go down the same as a £4m signing for instance?

[Displayname]

7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Yes, Almiron’s fee has been fully amortised.  It’s as if he’s an academy product. 

From an accounting perspective the fee we have to pay to Atlanta would have to come as a cost/reduced income this year i would think.

[Matt1892]

As someone else has said, any sell on clause will be on the profit we make on him which isn’t going to be much.

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

As someone else has said, any sell on clause will be on the profit we make on him which isn’t going to be much.

Ahh, so it only comes into effect if we sell him for more than what we bought him for?

[Matt1892]

Just now, Displayname said:

Ahh, so it only comes into effect if we sell him for more than what we bought him for?

That is how sell on clauses usually work, the Athletic article they take it from say it will be on any profits.

[Displayname]

7 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

That is how sell on clauses usually work, the Athletic article they take it from say it will be on any profits.

Makes sense.

[TheBrownBottle]

31 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

If we have to pay, say £4m to Atlanta because they're owed it as part of a clause, does that not go down the same as a £4m signing for instance?

It would be zero sum, as there would be £4m incoming then £4m outgoing, so it would be cost neutral for any sell-on clause.  Almiron’s original fee is amortised fully, so anything we’re not paying Atlanta goes straight into the income column.  Selling Almiron would likely help fund a big signing in this window - if they want to do that. 

[Nucasol]

Waugh talks well this morning about Miggy on the TF Podcast - 25 mins in.

[SUPERTOON]

12 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Waugh talks well this morning about Miggy on the TF Podcast - 25 mins in.

Anything interesting ?

[Nucasol]

37 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Anything interesting ?

Nothing spectacularly. Saudi been over talking to a number of clubs, discussed players with NUFC, interest from number of clubs in Miggy, nothing agreed but someone (BEIN Jacobs) jumped ahead. Player unaware.

 

So nothing really more than us as a fan base have stitched together.