Pata Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The handball and offside rules that have come in along with VAR are grim. It should be used to correct clear and obvious errors, not borderline offside decisions. This is just stupid, where do you draw the line? 5cm, 10cm or 30cm? Then we would be back arguing about the same thing again. No, it is definitely not stupid. It is by far the most sensible way to use VAR for offside decisions seeing that VAR objectively cannot make accurate judgements due to limitations in frame rates. There 100% has to be a "referee's call" margin for error applied just like they do in cricket with LBWs and Hawkeye. That frame rate thing has been debunked and it was completely made up by Daily Mail. Games are broadcast at 50 frames per second but the cameras VAR use go up to 300 frames per second IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The clearest penalty you've ever seen there in the Stoke game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 It would also help if the ref viewed the video evidence. Nah, I don't think that is all too necessary. But the actual justification for the decision should be explained clearly to the fans in the stadium and fans watching on TV by the referee who is overseeing the implementation of VAR. It would make things so much clearer to all. It's pretty obvious by now that for some reason the VAR team can't or doesn't want to change the referee's decision. Fouls and red cards are subjective, why isn't the head ref on the field making these decisions with the help of video evidence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The handball and offside rules that have come in along with VAR are grim. It should be used to correct clear and obvious errors, not borderline offside decisions. This is just stupid, where do you draw the line? 5cm, 10cm or 30cm? Then we would be back arguing about the same thing again. No, it is definitely not stupid. It is by far the most sensible way to use VAR for offside decisions seeing that VAR objectively cannot make accurate judgements due to limitations in frame rates. There 100% has to be a "referee's call" margin for error applied just like they do in cricket with LBWs and Hawkeye. That frame rate thing has been debunked and it was completely made up by Daily Mail. Games are broadcast at 50 frames per second but the cameras VAR use go up to 300 frames per second IIRC. I can't find evidence of the debunking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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midds Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 No. 27 for Stoke is one of the laziest players I’ve ever seen. Literally doing nothing. Not marking, not closing down, hasn’t had a touch for at least 15 mins, not even running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Went to see if Lazaar was playing for Cosenza tonight (he isn't) and Emmanel Riviere has scored for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Sounds class. Not sure why they’d be appealing though as VAR is never wrong and dead mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The handball and offside rules that have come in along with VAR are grim. It should be used to correct clear and obvious errors, not borderline offside decisions. This is just stupid, where do you draw the line? 5cm, 10cm or 30cm? Then we would be back arguing about the same thing again. No, it is definitely not stupid. It is by far the most sensible way to use VAR for offside decisions seeing that VAR objectively cannot make accurate judgements due to limitations in frame rates. There 100% has to be a "referee's call" margin for error applied just like they do in cricket with LBWs and Hawkeye. That frame rate thing has been debunked and it was completely made up by Daily Mail. Games are broadcast at 50 frames per second but the cameras VAR use go up to 300 frames per second IIRC. I can't find evidence of the debunking. First reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 So there would still be a margin for error. An armpits worth... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Si Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 The handball and offside rules that have come in along with VAR are grim. It should be used to correct clear and obvious errors, not borderline offside decisions. This is just stupid, where do you draw the line? 5cm, 10cm or 30cm? Then we would be back arguing about the same thing again. No, it is definitely not stupid. It is by far the most sensible way to use VAR for offside decisions seeing that VAR objectively cannot make accurate judgements due to limitations in frame rates. There 100% has to be a "referee's call" margin for error applied just like they do in cricket with LBWs and Hawkeye. That frame rate thing has been debunked and it was completely made up by Daily Mail. Games are broadcast at 50 frames per second but the cameras VAR use go up to 300 frames per second IIRC. I can't find evidence of the debunking. First reply. There absolutely needs to be a margin for error on the basis that it's impossible to tell exactly when the ball has left the foot of the player passing the ball, unless they have Ultra HD cameras running at whatever the necessary FPS zoomed in at the feet of every player on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Slavia playing well here (watch Messi score a hattrick now) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 They were canny in the first game. Basically the Czech XI that beat Inglun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Klopp is spot on when he says there is too much football to be played. He made a great point the other day by the fact its stupid there is another Copa America next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Been really impressed with Slavia Prague against Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Goal for slavia disallowed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Former Östersund chairman Daniel Kindberg sentenced to three years in prison. Looks like the club won’t be punished with relegation though. It should be IMO, as the club’s success is partly/significantly based on the financial crimes that’s led to this sentence. EDIT: Maybe should have posted this in ”Still not worthy of a thread” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 FM is dead accurate after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Village Idiot[/member] Fuck's gan on with Barca? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 This Barca side is poor and badly managed from all angles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Barca v Slavia first half was proper engrossing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Valverde's such a fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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