Decky Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Anything that stops Man City winning the CL, or any trophy for that matter, is always great. Hope Liverpool or Ajax go on to win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Been a great week for football. Money doesn’t buy everything, VAR working and proving those wrong who said it would be used to heighten the odds for the bigger sides, Fuck Man City and PSG , Ajax Barcelona Tottenham and Liverpool are all great sides and seem to do things more the right way Will be great if Ajax could do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Looks like handball to me. What an incredible game and good luck to Spurs going forward. The PFMs will probably give it the "Pep effed up again" narrative, but with margins like that, you can't say very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Spurs Ajax Barca Return of the Black Death to western Europe Massive corruption scandal to make the entire tournament null and void Nuclear apocalypse Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Village Idiot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Got the feeling Spurs are going to win this. No rationale whatsoever, just that after yesterday they seem to have the Mandate of Heaven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Really looking forward playing Liverpool, btw. It's a side I've been wanting to play while we're still a top dog (aka, Messi can still walk and hit a ball). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 There was one angle where you could see it clearly glanced Llorentes arm and they didn't even show the ref Would have been harsh as f*** to rule it out though btw Seriously, they never showed the ref this angle once... Why? It's the clearest one. Surprise, surprise, resident refereeing expert on BT Peter Walton said it hit his knee I was thinking surely BT won’t ask him back again I'd love to pile on because he's absolutely shit and pointless, but TBF he did say 'the ref's trying to see if it his hand and if it did then it shouldn't be a goal and he'll disallow it' The problem is the ref not being shown that angle above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 You can easily see on the other angles it hit his arm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It's not a handball under the current rules though, since he didn't mean to do it. That's the 'problem' with video in football. Some decisions you can draw a line and be sure (offside), some are a subjective judgement (handball, fouls). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Sorry like but if that's a "handball" we may as well fucking pack it in. His arm is not in an unnatural position, he is not leading into the ball with his arm, if anything he's tucking it into his body. Angle shown or not shown to give that as a handball and disallow would have been pathetic, it's the slightest graze of ball-to-hand (well brush-off-arm, really) before it comes off his body to go in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Sorry like but if that's a "handball" we may as well fucking pack it in. His arm is not in an unnatural position, he is not leading into the ball with his arm, if anything he's tucking it into his body. Angle shown or not shown to give that as a handball and disallow would have been pathetic, it's the slightest graze of ball-to-hand (well brush-off-arm, really) before it comes off his body to go in. Correct. When they remove the 'deliberate' stipulation it's going to be an absolute farce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It's not a handball under the current rules though, since he didn't mean to do it. That's the 'problem' with video in football. Some decisions you can draw a line and be sure (offside), some are a subjective judgement (handball, fouls). What did he mean to do? Because he failed miserably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It's not a handball under the current rules though, since he didn't mean to do it. That's the 'problem' with video in football. Some decisions you can draw a line and be sure (offside), some are a subjective judgement (handball, fouls). What did he mean to do? Because he failed miserably. Head it into the net? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It's not a handball under the current rules though, since he didn't mean to do it. That's the 'problem' with video in football. Some decisions you can draw a line and be sure (offside), some are a subjective judgement (handball, fouls). What did he mean to do? Because he failed miserably. Head it into the net? His head is 3 feet from the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 His head is 3 feet from the ball. That is quite clear, thanks. But did he mean to handle it? I would say no, therefore not a handball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 What an incredible game last night, both teams were brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 His head is 3 feet from the ball. That is quite clear, thanks. But did he mean to handle it? I would say no, therefore not a handball. Nobody will ever know. But what we can assume is that at some point he realised he wasn't getting anywhere near it, and possibly also knew it was heading in the direction of his hand. Doesn't need to deliberately handle it, just deliberately position his forearm in a manner that will ensure the ball moves towards the goal. If he moves his hand outta the way it hits his hip and goes who knows where. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 His head is 3 feet from the ball. That is quite clear, thanks. But did he mean to handle it? I would say no, therefore not a handball. Nobody will ever know. But what we can assume is that at some point he realised he wasn't getting anywhere near it, and possibly also knew it was heading in the direction of his hand. Doesn't need to deliberately handle it, just deliberately position his forearm in a manner that will ensure the ball moves towards the goal. If he moves his hand outta the way it hits his hip and goes who knows where. That was my point with the PSG handball v Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It was as canny as waiting for a touch in the box. So yeah, great goal, triffic player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Looks like handball to me. What an incredible game and good luck to Spurs going forward. The PFMs will probably give it the "Pep effed up again" narrative, but with margins like that, you can't say very much. There’s something to it though. Not so much personally about Pep but about his system. Defensively it tends to fold when questioned. He’s had highly competitive teams (best 2-3 in Europe) for about 9/10 seasons. He’s had 2 finals. consistent denominators include losing away from home. Not scoring away from home. And at Man City, conceding a lot of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Got the feeling Spurs are going to win this. No rationale whatsoever, just that after yesterday they seem to have the Mandate of Heaven. I’d they get to the final. They will conspire to lose. Still no trust in Tottenham’s mettle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 His head is 3 feet from the ball. That is quite clear, thanks. But did he mean to handle it? I would say no, therefore not a handball. Nobody will ever know. But what we can assume is that at some point he realised he wasn't getting anywhere near it, and possibly also knew it was heading in the direction of his hand. Doesn't need to deliberately handle it, just deliberately position his forearm in a manner that will ensure the ball moves towards the goal. If he moves his hand outta the way it hits his hip and goes who knows where. We do. In the net as it hit his hip after brushing his arm. If you think that goal should be disallowed you are following the wrong sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 His head is 3 feet from the ball. That is quite clear, thanks. But did he mean to handle it? I would say no, therefore not a handball. Nobody will ever know. But what we can assume is that at some point he realised he wasn't getting anywhere near it, and possibly also knew it was heading in the direction of his hand. Doesn't need to deliberately handle it, just deliberately position his forearm in a manner that will ensure the ball moves towards the goal. If he moves his hand outta the way it hits his hip and goes who knows where. We do. In the net as it hit his hip after brushing his arm. If you think that goal should be disallowed you are following the wrong sport. It's not intentional handball so should be given as a goal, but after the dodgy pens given since VAR has been introduced in the CL them where is the consistency in the application of the handball rule at all at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 His head is 3 feet from the ball. That is quite clear, thanks. But did he mean to handle it? I would say no, therefore not a handball. Nobody will ever know. But what we can assume is that at some point he realised he wasn't getting anywhere near it, and possibly also knew it was heading in the direction of his hand. Doesn't need to deliberately handle it, just deliberately position his forearm in a manner that will ensure the ball moves towards the goal. If he moves his hand outta the way it hits his hip and goes who knows where. But he didn't, he tucked his arm into his body. Watch the replay again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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