bealios Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 It was never £80m really though, was it? It was. Albeit that was probably (from memory) a one week window. You have to remember back in 2009, none of us had the confidence that if you go down you come straight back up. I remember watching that WBA game first day of the season when they scored, thought we were going to drop again. If we went down next season, I imagine a lot of fans wouldn't be too concerned, given that the two promotion seasons have generally been more enjoyable than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 It was £80m + new owners taking on the debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 It was £80m + new owners taking on the debt. It wasn't. It was £1 for the shares and £80m for the debt. By your reckoning, that was £80m for the club, and the debt was about £110m at the time, so £190m. Sounds bizarre, but £80m was genuinely the price. It was £100m for most of the sale process though, and I'm not convinced that it would have gone for £80m if I'm honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 So Mike Ashley who had bought the club 2 years previously was prepared to write off £135m of debt he took on and accumulated and another £45m on what he bought the club for (£125m). Don't believe that for a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 http://www.true-faith.co.uk/the-patter-takeover-stuck/ We’re getting no further information out of anyone about the much reported takeover but going over some reporting over the last fortnight we spotted this and thought it might be useful to chuck in to the pot for us to have a think about. This was in The Star last week from Ollie Salt who quoted Duncan Castle – a fellow hack regards some potential sticking points regards two clubs in the PL being run by Abu Dhabi: “Talking to people in Abu Dhabi, they would be surprised if at this stage Abu Dhabi would sanction, allow another member of the royal family, even if he was doing it off his own back, to buy another Premier League club because of the PR issues involved. If you have to go in, there are gonna be question marks about Abu Dhabi owning not one, but two [clubs]. You would expect a lot of spending on players, you would expect an inflation-rate effect. The question you’re asking: is this really the time to allow this to happen, when they’re under investigation from all four football-regulatory authorities? The alternative interpretation would be that they’re saying ‘well stuff you, we’re gonna buy another one and we’ll do what we want.’ Castles identifies problems at the Abu Dhabi end but it is also likely the PL will have questions about the relationships between owners of potentially the same families from the same royal family. All speculation on our part however. The Mag is fucking abysmal now. The fact that people just submit articles online rather than having to post them in and having a limit on articles per month has opened it up to every idiots immediate reaction. They make it so much worse by writing headlines which gives the impression that they are facts they are sharing and not options. Obviously this is done in order to get the click bait reactions. It’s just horrific though, just what was a light hearted fan magazine that turned into an advertisement revenue generator for the owners of the Mag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 So Mike Ashley who had bought the club 2 years previously was prepared to write off £135m of debt he took on and accumulated and another £45m on what he bought the club for (£125m). Don't believe that for a second. He bought an established premier league club for circa £130m. At the time I think we had about £70m Northern Rock debt, which needed to be paid off. At the point the sale was being negotiated, we had just been relegated. Numbers wise, it's spot on. This was back in 2009 in the aftermath of Portsmouth/Leeds etc. Honestly, that was the deal. As I said above, several parties had the £100m figure, the £80m figure literally came out at the last minute. But it was never £80m plus debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 http://www.true-faith.co.uk/the-patter-takeover-stuck/ We’re getting no further information out of anyone about the much reported takeover but going over some reporting over the last fortnight we spotted this and thought it might be useful to chuck in to the pot for us to have a think about. This was in The Star last week from Ollie Salt who quoted Duncan Castle – a fellow hack regards some potential sticking points regards two clubs in the PL being run by Abu Dhabi: “Talking to people in Abu Dhabi, they would be surprised if at this stage Abu Dhabi would sanction, allow another member of the royal family, even if he was doing it off his own back, to buy another Premier League club because of the PR issues involved. If you have to go in, there are gonna be question marks about Abu Dhabi owning not one, but two [clubs]. You would expect a lot of spending on players, you would expect an inflation-rate effect. The question you’re asking: is this really the time to allow this to happen, when they’re under investigation from all four football-regulatory authorities? The alternative interpretation would be that they’re saying ‘well stuff you, we’re gonna buy another one and we’ll do what we want.’ Castles identifies problems at the Abu Dhabi end but it is also likely the PL will have questions about the relationships between owners of potentially the same families from the same royal family. All speculation on our part however. The Mag is fucking abysmal now. The fact that people just submit articles online rather than having to post them in and having a limit on articles per month has opened it up to every idiots immediate reaction. They make it so much worse by writing headlines which gives the impression that they are facts they are sharing and not options. Obviously this is done in order to get the click bait reactions. It’s just horrific though, just what was a light hearted fan magazine that turned into an advertisement revenue generator for the owners of the Mag. That’s not the mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 http://www.true-faith.co.uk/the-patter-takeover-stuck/ We’re getting no further information out of anyone about the much reported takeover but going over some reporting over the last fortnight we spotted this and thought it might be useful to chuck in to the pot for us to have a think about. This was in The Star last week from Ollie Salt who quoted Duncan Castle – a fellow hack regards some potential sticking points regards two clubs in the PL being run by Abu Dhabi: “Talking to people in Abu Dhabi, they would be surprised if at this stage Abu Dhabi would sanction, allow another member of the royal family, even if he was doing it off his own back, to buy another Premier League club because of the PR issues involved. If you have to go in, there are gonna be question marks about Abu Dhabi owning not one, but two [clubs]. You would expect a lot of spending on players, you would expect an inflation-rate effect. The question you’re asking: is this really the time to allow this to happen, when they’re under investigation from all four football-regulatory authorities? The alternative interpretation would be that they’re saying ‘well stuff you, we’re gonna buy another one and we’ll do what we want.’ Castles identifies problems at the Abu Dhabi end but it is also likely the PL will have questions about the relationships between owners of potentially the same families from the same royal family. All speculation on our part however. The Mag is fucking abysmal now. The fact that people just submit articles online rather than having to post them in and having a limit on articles per month has opened it up to every idiots immediate reaction. They make it so much worse by writing headlines which gives the impression that they are facts they are sharing and not options. Obviously this is done in order to get the click bait reactions. It’s just horrific though, just what was a light hearted fan magazine that turned into an advertisement revenue generator for the owners of the Mag. That’s not the mag So it isn’t. True Faith has always been fucking horrific in my view though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Yes to be fair tho it’s pretty much just something that was in the papers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Lucky its Dubai. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-newcastle-united-manager-16482660 More reports of this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Would rather the world-class manager who isn't a dickhead, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-newcastle-united-manager-16482660 More reports of this More crap from people who know fuck all. That’s thing with football, once a link has been made, it can stick despite being obviously guff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Mourinho + Sheikh Khaled over Benítez + Ashley mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 No fucking way do i want Rafa to leave he has a plan to stay here until he probably retires has brought the fans/Media together and made signings people never rated improve massively , Mou would fuck that all up within two seasons and walk away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Aye, love Rafa but if getting rid of Ashley means Rafa leaving then unfortunately I'd take that.. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Pardew/Carver & The Sheikh or Benitez & Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Benítez & Ashley. The first one would show they’ve no clue or ambition either. Going for Mourinho at least shows ambition even if it fails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Pardew/Carver & The Sheikh or Benitez & Ashley? I want Ashley gone BUT anyone that seeks out Pardew/Carver to give them a job has to be an absolute doylem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 New owner plus new manager for me. You have to roll the dice. Ashley going is everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Aye, love Rafa but if getting rid of Ashley means Rafa leaving then unfortunately I'd take that.. ? 100%....and this is the only fuckin club in the world where we have to think of this type of situation. Absolute shit storm constantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 It's a moot point and a non starter. Rafa is almost as much of an asset and attraction buying the club than the clubs potential. I get the bring in your own people mantra but it's pretty clear in this case there is no need. In almost every way it would be a disaster not bringing Rafa back. Immediate alienation of fans and no guarantees even Mourinho would be a success while Rafa has the players, staff and public eating out of his hand. Not ruling out a Big Sam style exit if he doesn't work for the owners though. Barring a complete clash in philosophy and support in rafas conversation with new owners he will be here. Still think however this will run and he will be out of contract before new owners are in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Aye, love Rafa but if getting rid of Ashley means Rafa leaving then unfortunately I'd take that.. ? As much as I'd be gutted to see Rafa leave, I have to agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I would miss Rafa, but if it meant FCB going yes I'd want it. Rafa is a wonderful bloke, that I would miss, with each passing day it's more n more likely hes a gonna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Agreed. And, heck, same. In order of preference. 1. Ashley Goes, Rafa Stays. 2. Ashley Goes, Rafa Goes 3. Ashley Stays, Rafa Stays 4. The world literally explodes. 5. Ashley Stays, Rafa Goes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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