Guest godzilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 We wouldn’t be selling our best players if we where close to being taken over Let's see if he had buyout clause first because if he did he had no choice but to sell I think you are the only one that still believes in the takeover He’s not had a clause of £30m man ffs. Let it go You don't know I don't know. You don't know if the takeover is happening and I don't know Let's just wait and see 'ffs' grow up man Me grow up? You are the one that’s mentioned the Perez release clause and the club not been able to stop it (not even sure that’s accurate) about 5 times ffs Think you want to look at Keith Downie's twitter Bishop’s cash all over that Of course it is Wow you pick and choose like nobody else man No I just go by what's being put out and what we know has happened. I have not once 'picked and chosen' anything and have went along not wavering on anything based on what's actually happened. Only time will tell and we will know soon anyway You still expect a statement either way? I don’t. You're entitled to your opinion, I 100% disagree tough because I think there will be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Any kind of firesale would suggest he's selling like, very out if character. Aye BZG are gonna be delighted to pay £350m for the club minus a couple of its biggest assets Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the accounting value of these players be totally different to the paper value? I would have thought the accounting value dictates the price of the club as opposed to the paper value of the players. I'm seriously clutching here, but wouldn't cash in the bank be more appealing to potential buyers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This COULD be Ashley being spiteful in his last few days of ownership but, then again, BZG would just tell him not to. If it is a release clause, I guess it doesn't specifically rule out a takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 We are such a f***ing basket case club it’s unreal. Only because of Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 We are such a f***ing basket case club it’s unreal. Only because of Ashley. Well yeah I know that like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This COULD be Ashley being spiteful in his last few days of ownership but, then again, BZG would just tell him not to. If it is a release clause, I guess it doesn't specifically rule out a takeover. That's the key as Ashley or BZG would have no say in the matter whatsoever and thus it would not impact on any takeover one bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 What the f*** is his game here like? Even by his own standards this is fucken ridiculous. Is it really that unexpected? It has been widely reported that Pérez had itchy feet and we all know Ashley’s love for making a few Bob regardless of the consequences. Wasn’t one of the main sticking points for Rafa that he wasn’t given enough control over transfers? If that’s the case then this is exactly what was expected: f*** whichever desperate dupe they appoint, he’ll be given what to work with and told to get on with it (see “Pardue). As for the takeover, not sure anyone would sit back and see the value of the club diminish after already having agreed a price. He’s just getting on with things isn’t he...I’d be amazed if a deal goes through now. This just looks like every other close season / transfer window now, only worse I know it's easy to say "but it's Ashley, it doesn't have to make sense" but to leave your squad with 1 actual striker (Joselu is not a striker) is beyond crazy, it just makes no sense on any level. My guess is he's looking to buy big in the hope it appeases us on some level - those Joelinton rumours make more sense with this sale. It does, in the sense the morons think we could swap out one with the other. The chances of Joelinton or any one else actually being interested in coming here now is the problem. Let's say there are players still wanting to come here, whixh of course there are. They're only likely to be not good enough or in it for the money leeches we have seen before. You think Ashley thinks we can survive the Prem with inferior strikers? I think Ashley's reluctance to ever spend anything significant on a striker proves he knows full well the value of a striker. This is shaping up to be no different than what we’ve been used to for most of Ashley’s tenure. Get what you can while you can and gamble on replacing with cheaper, (more potentially profitable) replacements then spin the wheel and see if we can stay up. He’s a gambler, that’s his thing. Unfortunately for us, he’s also a vindictive man child who surrounds himself with the kind of sycophants that don’t seem to have either the intelligence or the bottle to take him to task. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Looking forward to Longstaffs release clause being activated that was set when he was still a glint in the milkman eye No takeover, no rafa, no perez, no rondon, no longstaff, no duvravka, no schar, no lascelles Looking forward to fat sam, colback and Hoselu next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Any kind of firesale would suggest he's selling like, very out if character. Aye BZG are gonna be delighted to pay £350m for the club minus a couple of its biggest assets Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the accounting value of these players be totally different to the paper value? I would have thought the accounting value dictates the price of the club as opposed to the paper value of the players. I'm seriously clutching here, but wouldn't cash in the bank be more appealing to potential buyers? You are right that the accounting value will be different (in this case Perez would be worth nothing in the books) but the market value of the players would have a bearing on any takeover value. What has happened on an accounting basis with this sale is that the net asset value of the club (accounting basis) has gone up by £30m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This COULD be Ashley being spiteful in his last few days of ownership but, then again, BZG would just tell him not to. If it is a release clause, I guess it doesn't specifically rule out a takeover. That's the key as Ashley or BZG would have no say in the matter whatsoever and thus it would not impact on any takeover one bit. Genuine question if he appointed Martinez as the sun is reporting, would you still think it’s going ahead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This COULD be Ashley being spiteful in his last few days of ownership but, then again, BZG would just tell him not to. If it is a release clause, I guess it doesn't specifically rule out a takeover. That's the key as Ashley or BZG would have no say in the matter whatsoever and thus it would not impact on any takeover one bit. Genuine question if he appointed Martinez as the sun is reporting, would you still think it’s going ahead? Think it will be done and dusted either way before any manager is appointed, so honestly don't think that will come into play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 We'll be 20th in December and some of our fans will still be saying "aye but let's wait until January and see if this takeover happens" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mike Ashley won’t pay compensation for a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This COULD be Ashley being spiteful in his last few days of ownership but, then again, BZG would just tell him not to. If it is a release clause, I guess it doesn't specifically rule out a takeover. That's the key as Ashley or BZG would have no say in the matter whatsoever and thus it would not impact on any takeover one bit. Genuine question if he appointed Martinez as the sun is reporting, would you still think it’s going ahead? Whilst there’s still no permanent appointment, there remains hope imo. The moment an announcement is Made appointing anyone On anything other than a short term deal (without reference to any caveat about imminent change of ownership) then this thread is dead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Any kind of firesale would suggest he's selling like, very out if character. Aye BZG are gonna be delighted to pay £350m for the club minus a couple of its biggest assets Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the accounting value of these players be totally different to the paper value? I would have thought the accounting value dictates the price of the club as opposed to the paper value of the players. I'm seriously clutching here, but wouldn't cash in the bank be more appealing to potential buyers? You are right that the accounting value will be different (in this case Perez would be worth nothing in the books) but the market value of the players would have a bearing on any takeover value. What has happened on an accounting basis with this sale is that the net asset value of the club (accounting basis) has gone up by £30m So in the balance of things, would that make the club more or less appealing for a buyer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 What the f*** is his game here like? Even by his own standards this is fucken ridiculous. Is it really that unexpected? It has been widely reported that Pérez had itchy feet and we all know Ashley’s love for making a few Bob regardless of the consequences. Wasn’t one of the main sticking points for Rafa that he wasn’t given enough control over transfers? If that’s the case then this is exactly what was expected: f*** whichever desperate dupe they appoint, he’ll be given what to work with and told to get on with it (see “Pardue). As for the takeover, not sure anyone would sit back and see the value of the club diminish after already having agreed a price. He’s just getting on with things isn’t he...I’d be amazed if a deal goes through now. This just looks like every other close season / transfer window now, only worse I know it's easy to say "but it's Ashley, it doesn't have to make sense" but to leave your squad with 1 actual striker (Joselu is not a striker) is beyond crazy, it just makes no sense on any level. My guess is he's looking to buy big in the hope it appeases us on some level - those Joelinton rumours make more sense with this sale. It does, in the sense the morons think we could swap out one with the other. The chances of Joelinton or any one else actually being interested in coming here now is the problem. Let's say there are players still wanting to come here, whixh of course there are. They're only likely to be not good enough or in it for the money leeches we have seen before. You think Ashley thinks we can survive the Prem with inferior strikers? I think Ashley's reluctance to ever spend anything significant on a striker proves he knows full well the value of a striker. This is shaping up to be no different than what we’ve been used to for most of Ashley’s tenure. Get what you can while you can and gamble on replacing with cheaper, (more potentially profitable) replacements then spin the wheel and see if we can stay up. He’s a gambler, that’s his thing. Unfortunately for us, he’s also a vindictive man child who surrounds himself with the kind of sycophants that don’t seem to have either the intelligence or the bottle to take him to task. . Another loan and another purchase for anything less than £20m and he's taken 1 step back and 10 steps forward in his eyes. Fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 So basically Ashley would won’t a higher price then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Usually a firesale happens after he relegates us. Ahead of the curve this year. Genius that he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is worse then the relegation seasons - relegation will still happen next season mind you - but I feel the pain already. I had some hope and now it is gone. We will be 20th place all season. I would think think will be our last year in the premier league for some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 So basically Ashley would won’t a higher price then? Haha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Trying to not care but really i'm like... Dis is shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is worse then the relegation seasons - relegation will still happen next season mind you - but I feel the pain already. I had some hope and now it is gone. We will be 20th place all season. I would think think will be our last year in the premier league for some time. No Rafa to save Mike this time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is worse then the relegation seasons - relegation will still happen next season mind you - but I feel the pain already. I had some hope and now it is gone. We will be 20th place all season. I would think think will be our last year in the premier league for some time. Successive relegations are what needs to happen , help drive the fans away and make NUFC a loss maker for him . Theres no way he leaves otherwise at least this side of death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is worse then the relegation seasons - relegation will still happen next season mind you - but I feel the pain already. I had some hope and now it is gone. We will be 20th place all season. I would think think will be our last year in the premier league for some time. No Rafa to save Mike this time which sadly won't help get rid of him because who'd want to buy it off him at a fee he'd want and if you think he'd drastically lower his price the last 10 decade tell a very different story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 My American wife was discussing the events surrounding the helicopter incident at Leicester the other day and was talking about how much the fans loved him and the outpouring of grief She then asked if that was Mike Ashley's helicopter would people party like when Thatcher died My answer was a resounding yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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