Matt Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Nobody is saying this is fact, just that it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Info-wars shit is 'assuming' from their vague statement released nearly a month ago that they had signed a legally-binding sales and purchase agreement. Hows that theory going. You mean the one a national journo claimed vehemently was a done deal? Yes, I think that holds more water than random joining of dots without anything to back it up. FWIW, if Khaled is seen as 'the same' as the Abu Dhabi state, then no deal could take place because they already have a club in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Sorry but agreeing a price and making a bid are two different things. If that's where where we are what are bzg playing at. after all this and all we know you blame bzg? I said IF. And yes, IF a price has been agreed and no bid has come about in 6 weeks who would you blame? If you agreed to sell your house but no offer came about after a week or so how would you feel? 6 weeks, would you still think its on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Anyone still positive about a takeover? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Anyone still positive about a takeover? Absolutely not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Lee Ryder is really struggling The fucker is monumentally stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facundo Ferreyra Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Anyone still positive about a takeover? Somewhat. Less than I was, but still hopeful. I know, I'm a fucking mug. Until I hear it's dead, I'll have that slight hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Sorry but agreeing a price and making a bid are two different things. If that's where where we are what are bzg playing at. after all this and all we know you blame bzg? I said IF. And yes, IF a price has been agreed and no bid has come about in 6 weeks who would you blame? If you agreed to sell your house but no offer came about after a week or so how would you feel? 6 weeks, would you still think its on? Agreeing a price and a bit is pretty much the same thing man. The waters are so muddy no one knows where we are it. Noises from bzg just 4 days ago was they were ‘waiting on the PL’ There needs to be a statement from both sides and soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Nobody is saying this is fact, just that it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Info-wars shit is 'assuming' from their vague statement released nearly a month ago that they had signed a legally-binding sales and purchase agreement. Hows that theory going. You mean the one a national journo claimed vehemently was a done deal? Yes, I think that holds more water than random joining of dots without anything to back it up. FWIW, if Khaled is seen as 'the same' as the Abu Dhabi state, then no deal could take place because they already have a club in the league. Has any official body stated whether cousins etc can own 2 different clubs in the PL? I'm honestly unsure, mainly because we are being fed so much shit from the media, from sources within Ashley's camp, but also incredibly by BZG. They're statements have just added to the confusion around what is actually going on. All we have is joining dots...theres been a distinct lack of factual info around the whole thing. By the way, did the journo say they had actually signed an SPA? I don't think he did. Also, journalists (especially from the S*n), regularly write absolute bollocks. It was pretty clear they had never got that far. Ashley likes putting big headlines like "Ashley agrees to sell NUFC!!" in papers for some strange reason. Anyway, I'd be fucking amazed if this BZG group actually buy us, as I've said from the start of this long saga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Perhaps hes only using BZG in order to up the price / add ons with the supposed other two contenders vying to buy the club ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Anyone still positive about a takeover? Absolutely not No. Wasn't convinced from the start but would love to be proved wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 When Ashley needs quick cash we will be sold, a few more hits like Debenhams will probably force him to sell in a few years but its what sort of shell will be left that worries me. At the minute Ashley is making no cash from SD (Debenhams, HoF etc being part of that rather than owned by him directly) as SD haven't paid a dividend in years. I think if SD continues to underperform due to adventures outside their comfort zone then it's got to be tempting to take it private again and at that point he'll need to have as much cash to hand as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Sorry but agreeing a price and making a bid are two different things. If that's where where we are what are bzg playing at. after all this and all we know you blame bzg? I said IF. And yes, IF a price has been agreed and no bid has come about in 6 weeks who would you blame? If you agreed to sell your house but no offer came about after a week or so how would you feel? 6 weeks, would you still think its on? Agreeing a price and a bit is pretty much the same thing man. The waters are so muddy no one knows where we are it. Noises from bzg just 4 days ago was they were ‘waiting on the PL’ There needs to be a statement from both sides and soon It's not like, you can agree a price and not follow up with an offer... I mention houses because that happened to us, we agreed to a price to sell our house but an offer never came in. We chased and chased and in the end the buyer wasn't serious. So next time we didn't grt out hopes up too soon, even when an offer came in we knew there was a long way to go. IF that's what is happening and why ryder is so certain of no bid then fuck me this is miles away and at this pace it won't be done before Xmas... If at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 The only slight bit of positivity I have left is bzg inferring the PL still doing checks. As the last few pages on here show things can be quite complicated with who this sheik khaled is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Sorry but agreeing a price and making a bid are two different things. If that's where where we are what are bzg playing at. after all this and all we know you blame bzg? I said IF. And yes, IF a price has been agreed and no bid has come about in 6 weeks who would you blame? If you agreed to sell your house but no offer came about after a week or so how would you feel? 6 weeks, would you still think its on? Agreeing a price and a bit is pretty much the same thing man. The waters are so muddy no one knows where we are it. Noises from bzg just 4 days ago was they were ‘waiting on the PL’ There needs to be a statement from both sides and soon It's not like, you can agree a price and not follow up with an offer... I mention houses because that happened to us, we agreed to a price to sell our house but an offer never came in. We chased and chased and in the end the buyer wasn't serious. So next time we didn't grt out hopes up too soon, even when an offer came in we knew there was a long way to go. IF that's what is happening and why ryder is so certain of no bid then fuck me this is miles away and at this pace it won't be done before Xmas... If at all. Fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Lee Ryder is really struggling The fucker is monumentally stupid. This is the best bit: https://twitter.com/lee_ryder/status/1147474861121581056?s=19 For some reason he stopped talking after he was rightfully vilified for that answer :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 That’s me btw. He sent me a dm telling me if I’ve got an issue to email the sports desk. I said I’ve no issue. Felt a bit bad for him tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Anyone still positive about a takeover? Absolutely not Ditto. Admit to getting sucked in by it and actually thinking that there was some validity to it all a while back, but this is a non starter and probably always was looking at it. (imo) He has zero intention of selling his cash machine any time soon imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 That’s me btw. He sent me a dm telling me if I’ve got an issue to email the sports desk. I said I’ve no issue Tbh money not handed over doesn't mean bids not in. Money handed over would suggest sale is complete. Ryder is such a tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I can make a bid on ebay and then refuse to buy the item, that doesn't change the fact I made a bid. If they've agreed a price for the potential purchase of the club that's a bid, or offer, or however to want to describe it. Otherwise when is the bid exactly? Even with a house you can pull out of the purchase after making an official offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I can make a bid on ebay and then refuse to buy the item. That doesn't change the fact I made a bid. If they've agreed a price for the potential purchase of the club that's a bid, or offer, or however to want to describe it. Otherwise when is the bid exactly? Even with a house you can pull out of the purchase after making an official offer. You. Making a bid on eBay isn't agreeing a price, it's a bid on an auction site. The club isn't up for auction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I think we have, or have had at some stages, willing buyers. I don't doubt that. We just don't have a willing seller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Lee Ryder man, talk about stealing a living. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Anyone still positive about a takeover? Absolutely not Ditto. Admit to getting sucked in by it and actually thinking that there was some validity to it all a while back, but this is a non starter and probably always was looking at it. (imo) He has zero intention of selling his cash machine any time soon imo. The giveaway should have been the news breaking as "Ashley agrees to sell Newcastle United" and the small print being "he hasn't actually sold them but we think he will" For me, that was the moment I thought 'here we go again'.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Ryder: "You're struggling with it. Terms agreed yes, money handed over no. Easy." Also Ryder: "No bid made" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I can make a bid on ebay and then refuse to buy the item. That doesn't change the fact I made a bid. If they've agreed a price for the potential purchase of the club that's a bid, or offer, or however to want to describe it. Otherwise when is the bid exactly? Even with a house you can pull out of the purchase after making an official offer. You. Making a bid on eBay isn't agreeing a price, it's a bid on an auction site. The club isn't up for auction. The exact nature of the bid isn't relevant, a bid isn't limited to any specific situation such as a auction site. A bid is to offer a specific amount of money for something that's for sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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