Dr Jinx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 The Wall Street journal piece has basically disintegrated. First they said advanced talks and a deal could be completed within weeks. Then the celeb friend is brought into the story and the latest is that she brought the deal to the Saudis after meeting Staveley and she couldn’t answer any questions about returns that they asked. And that’s where it was left. Those journalists need to be called out on that. It’s not the daily mail they write for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 The interest clearly wasn't / isn't bullshit. "Clearly" The only thing clear here is the club will not be sold. So you actually believe that none of the reported interested parties have ever been actually interested in purchasing the club? Come on, man. BZG was a hoax, but Staveley clearly isn't. She just hasn't got the funds that Ashley wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 The Wall Street journal piece has basically disintegrated. First they said advanced talks and a deal could be completed within weeks. Then the celeb friend is brought into the story and the latest is that she brought the deal to the Saudis after meeting Staveley and she couldn’t answer any questions about returns that they asked. And that’s where it was left. Those journalists need to be called out on that. It’s not the daily mail they write for. Talks and deals can take a while. Just because we have heard fuck all, it does not mean something isn’t happening. For example the buyers could be waiting to see if we are safe to buy us. They could be waiting in Premier League approval etc. There will likely be a fucking web of deals and attachments Ashley has got the club in to sort out before any sale can be finalised etc. Deals like this don’t happen overnight, even if £350m does happen to be loose change to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 The interest clearly wasn't / isn't bullshit. "Clearly" The only thing clear here is the club will not be sold. So you actually believe that none of the reported interested parties have ever been actually interested in purchasing the club? Come on, man. BZG was a hoax, but Staveley clearly isn't. She just hasn't got the funds that Ashley wants. Staveley has funds the last time, but not as much as now. That’s why her bids depended on a lot of circumstances and were a bit lower than the current one. That was never going to fly with Ashley, he threw a hissy fit then Staveley’s backers wanted to put their money elsewhere, where they would get a return, instead of sitting in a pot waiting for Ashley to pick up. I think now she’s in a much better position. With the Saudi’s she’s pretty much always going to have access to £350m whenever she needs it. As ever, the only stumbling block is if that fat cunt decides his time is up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Talks and desks can take a while. Just because we have heard fuck all, it does not mean something isn’t happening. For example the buyers could be waiting to see if we are safe to buy us. They could be waiting in Premier League approval etc. There will likely be a fucking web of deals and attachments Ashley has got the club in to sort out before any sale can be finalised etc. Deals like this don’t happen overnight, even if £350m does happen to be loose change to you. Exactly the same thing was said the previous times so you'll have to forgive me if I don't see this latest silence as a sign that something is happening. Whatever led to the WSJ piece being written, I cannot say, but there has been nothing since to suggest it was credible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Talks and desks can take a while. Just because we have heard fuck all, it does not mean something isn’t happening. For example the buyers could be waiting to see if we are safe to buy us. They could be waiting in Premier League approval etc. There will likely be a fucking web of deals and attachments Ashley has got the club in to sort out before any sale can be finalised etc. Deals like this don’t happen overnight, even if £350m does happen to be loose change to you. Exactly the same thing was said the previous times so you'll have to forgive me if I don't see this latest silence as a sign that something is happening. Whatever led to the WSJ piece being written, I cannot say, but there has been nothing since to suggest it was credible. I think the lack of denials from any of the rumoured parties suggests some credibility. They gain nothing from being linked and if anything it harms Staveleys reputation after the original failed bids. More likely there was interest and Ashleys demands have kiboshed it. Edit - or the slump may have had an impact. You'd be nuts to pay nearly 1/2 billion at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Ah well. See you all in June-July when the next takeover talk happens. Which will then fizzle out like it never happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyne81 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 That Portsmouth home game made me feel physically sick at the time. 3-0 down after 10 mins, with 3 goals conceded in 3 minutes Remember that day well. Last or second last season I had a season ticket in the middle of the Gallowgate. Seen the goals flying in perfectly well and I found it hilarious. Think Cacapa was subbed just after the third. Can probably pin point that day to when I started to not give a f*** about the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Same mo as last time , big story in a Murdoch newspaper , its almost done , followed by mindless speculation . Caulkin says its a legit attempt though and George is more trustworthy than the rest of the hacks put together Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Same mo as last time , big story in a Murdoch newspaper , its almost done , followed by mindless speculation . Caulkin says its a legit attempt though and George is more trustworthy than the rest of the hacks put together Please explain why?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 The interest clearly wasn't / isn't bullshit. "Clearly" The only thing clear here is the club will not be sold. So you actually believe that none of the reported interested parties have ever been actually interested in purchasing the club? Come on, man. BZG was a hoax, but Staveley clearly isn't. She just hasn't got the funds that Ashley wants. You see, theres so much smoke and mirrors and outright bollocks flying around that I am beginning to doubt Staveley, yes. She hasn't got the funds? Come on man, we're being told one of the wealthiest people in the world is behind her. She's been on the scene for 2 and a half years now. Is she just waiting for Mike to play nice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Same mo as last time , big story in a Murdoch newspaper , its almost done , followed by mindless speculation . Caulkin says its a legit attempt though and George is more trustworthy than the rest of the hacks put together Please explain why?? read the rest of the hacks : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Same mo as last time , big story in a Murdoch newspaper , its almost done , followed by mindless speculation . Caulkin says its a legit attempt though and George is more trustworthy than the rest of the hacks put together Caulkin himself said after interviewing Staveley, that he believed she was for real, but he wasn't able to guarantee that at all: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/is-amanda-staveley-a-time-waster-i-dont-know-but-mike-ashley-is-wpqzwj8xk IF she isn't genuine, then this 2 1/2 years starts to make more sense. She's also got no real signs of having much of a legitimate business either FWIW: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case It's a mystery, but there's literally no reliable proof she's genuine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Same mo as last time , big story in a Murdoch newspaper , its almost done , followed by mindless speculation . Caulkin says its a legit attempt though and George is more trustworthy than the rest of the hacks put together Caulkin himself said after interviewing Staveley, that he believed she was for real, but he wasn't able to guarantee that at all: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/is-amanda-staveley-a-time-waster-i-dont-know-but-mike-ashley-is-wpqzwj8xk IF she isn't genuine, then this 2 1/2 years starts to make more sense. Indeed , in fact that possibility is about the only thing that does make sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Same mo as last time , big story in a Murdoch newspaper , its almost done , followed by mindless speculation . Caulkin says its a legit attempt though and George is more trustworthy than the rest of the hacks put together Please explain why?? read the rest of the hacks : ) So he's more trustworthy because he hasn't said anything? Well, nothing since he said he wouldn't say anything because it would spoil it. If you trust him then you shouldn't be alarmed when things take time. It obviously takes two fucking years to even get close, and hat's with the press respecting Ashley's wishes that it is kept secret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Same mo as last time , big story in a Murdoch newspaper , its almost done , followed by mindless speculation . Caulkin says its a legit attempt though and George is more trustworthy than the rest of the hacks put together Caulkin himself said after interviewing Staveley, that he believed she was for real, but he wasn't able to guarantee that at all: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/is-amanda-staveley-a-time-waster-i-dont-know-but-mike-ashley-is-wpqzwj8xk IF she isn't genuine, then this 2 1/2 years starts to make more sense. She's also got no real signs of having much of a legitimate business either FWIW: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case It's a mystery, but there's literally no reliable proof she's genuine. Her business is mostly based in the UAE where they don’t need to public ally release accounts. If she is a time waster then how come the Saudi’s or Reuben brothers haven’t just outed her? You could argue the Reuben’s could be involved with Ashley, but the Saudi’s? Nah. How was she able to facilitate the sale of Man City? How was she able to facilitate getting Barclays external credit from the Middle East? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 All signs point to Ashley just taking the piss as usual. I'm sure there are offers being put to him but he just won't entertain them because he's the waster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 All signs point to Ashley just taking the piss as usual. I'm sure there are offers being put to him but he just won't entertain them because he's the waster. But Staveley has had 2 and a half fucking years to put offers to him. She's had a lovely sit down curry with him, she's been called a tmewaster. She must be the most gullible woman on the planet if she keeps repeating the same actions expecting a different outcome. I don't think she is that gullible personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I think he see's Newcastle as part of his empire and will never let us go, the day he sells Sports Direct is the day he will sell us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 All signs point to Ashley just taking the piss as usual. I'm sure there are offers being put to him but he just won't entertain them because he's the waster. But Staveley has had 2 and a half fucking years to put offers to him. She's had a lovely sit down curry with him, she's been called a tmewaster. She must be the most gullible woman on the planet if she keeps repeating the same actions expecting a different outcome. I don't think she is that gullible personally. I'd believe her side of the story over Ashley's, any day of the week. Who's to say the offers she talked about weren't genuine the first time? The ones that were talked about in that interview after talks ended. For all we know they could have agreed to start new talks and then Ashley is moving the goal posts again, because it's what he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 All signs point to Ashley just taking the piss as usual. I'm sure there are offers being put to him but he just won't entertain them because he's the waster. But Staveley has had 2 and a half fucking years to put offers to him. She's had a lovely sit down curry with him, she's been called a tmewaster. She must be the most gullible woman on the planet if she keeps repeating the same actions expecting a different outcome. I don't think she is that gullible personally. I'd believe her side of the story over Ashley's, any day of the week. Who's to say the offers she talked about weren't genuine the first time? The ones that were talked about in that interview after talks ended. For all we know they could have agreed to start new talks and then Ashley is moving the goal posts again, because it's what he does. What's an extra £10m here or there to a billionaire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 All signs point to Ashley just taking the piss as usual. I'm sure there are offers being put to him but he just won't entertain them because he's the waster. But Staveley has had 2 and a half fucking years to put offers to him. She's had a lovely sit down curry with him, she's been called a tmewaster. She must be the most gullible woman on the planet if she keeps repeating the same actions expecting a different outcome. I don't think she is that gullible personally. I'd believe her side of the story over Ashley's, any day of the week. Who's to say the offers she talked about weren't genuine the first time? The ones that were talked about in that interview after talks ended. For all we know they could have agreed to start new talks and then Ashley is moving the goal posts again, because it's what he does. What's an extra £10m here or there to a billionaire? In all seriousness when he says £10m he probably actually means £100m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Ashley knows it's hard to put a price on thousands of idiot sheep giving you their money and letthing you do whatever you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I feel sorry for the lads who thought this could happen in the first place. Honestly lads if yous fall for this shit again in the summer you deserve the disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I think the motto is something like "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me for 8 consecutive transfer windows, and I'll buy a season ticket." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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