xLiaaamx Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 You being that account makes so much sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just had a reply saying our playing style is like the Leicester team that won the title Jesus christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 No one cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 No one cares. I wish that was the case now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sometimes you need to learn when the time is right for those sorts of stats. 3rd best form in the league in the last 8 games behind Liverpool & Leicester isn’t going to get much support. If anything you’re probably just pissing Rafa fans off too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sometimes you need to learn when the time is right for those sorts of stats. 3rd best form in the league in the last 8 games behind Liverpool & Leicester isn’t going to get much support. If anything you’re probably just pissing Rafa fans off too. Well it’s got the same number of likes as hate comments most people know what I’m saying is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sometimes you need to learn when the time is right for those sorts of stats. 3rd best form in the league in the last 8 games behind Liverpool & Leicester isn’t going to get much support. If anything you’re probably just pissing Rafa fans off too. What about for the next 8 games? Sorry for not being a flip flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sometimes you need to learn when the time is right for those sorts of stats. 3rd best form in the league in the last 8 games behind Liverpool & Leicester isn’t going to get much support. If anything you’re probably just pissing Rafa fans off too. The thing is, everybody's a Rafa fan (well alright you'll always find a few knackers, especially on Twitter). Just because someone isn't relentlessly negative towards Bruce, doesn't mean they are a 'Rafa-hater' or that they think Bruce is better than Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 When are we getting HoweFacts though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sometimes you need to learn when the time is right for those sorts of stats. 3rd best form in the league in the last 8 games behind Liverpool & Leicester isn’t going to get much support. If anything you’re probably just pissing Rafa fans off too. Best just to leave them to get on with it probably. I have absolutely no faith in Bruce personally, but if he thinks he is going to be supported by Ashley in building a decent side, then have at it. Right now though, I don't want to watch the football he is producing, even though the results are respectable enough. For now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 When are we getting HoweFacts though? The media have a new favourite that needs to be dealt with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I know that but we know what our fanbase is like, particularly on social media. It’s not like Rafa’s supporters are suddenly going to think he’s shit if GE doesn’t post this stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sometimes you need to learn when the time is right for those sorts of stats. 3rd best form in the league in the last 8 games behind Liverpool & Leicester isn’t going to get much support. If anything you’re probably just pissing Rafa fans off too. What about for the next 8 games? Sorry for not being a flip flop. The best time for these stats is after we've played those 8 games. If we pick up a reasonable points haul in them, which isn't impossible, you're just going to distance people further from the cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sometimes you need to learn when the time is right for those sorts of stats. 3rd best form in the league in the last 8 games behind Liverpool & Leicester isn’t going to get much support. If anything you’re probably just pissing Rafa fans off too. What about for the next 8 games? Sorry for not being a flip flop. The best time for these stats is after we've played those 8 games. If we pick up a reasonable points haul in them, which isn't impossible, you're just going to distance people further from the cause. This. Your message is on point but your timing is way off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 If I saw someone come in and play a new formation and saw lots of things that he’s done coaching wise that has improved us then I’d say fair enough but Bruce hasn’t done that. If Graham Potter was Newcastle manager and had us playing like Brighton I’d have to praise him because you can see his coaching deserves praise. With Bruce there’s hardly anything I can see that deserves praise everything that’s good about us he inherited he hasn’t coached anything good into us that I can praise. How many managers have gone in and played the exact same system as the previous manager a formation that he’d never played in his life before. Bruce is just a fraud that’s living off the good things he inherited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I’m getting a public hanging on Twitter for this tweet about local hero Brucie I replied to someone on Twitter talking about Bruce. I mentioned xG and xPoints to highlight the fact that we're in a bit of a false position and was met by several replies along the lines of "Actual goals and points matter, give Bruce a break!!!", "That is the most ridiculous stat anyone could come up with - a pointless statistic", "Stop looking at stats and start looking at results". Twitter is full of fucking morons. I won't be commenting on anything again as I can't be arsed explaining how xG is actually a really good indicator and predictor of a side's true performance to some fucking imbecile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I’m getting a public hanging on Twitter for this tweet about local hero Brucie I replied to someone on Twitter talking about Bruce. I mentioned xG and xPoints to highlight the fact that we're in a bit of a false position and was met by several replies along the lines of "Actual goals and points matter, give Bruce a break!!!", "That is the most ridiculous stat anyone could come up with - a pointless statistic", "Stop looking at stats and start looking at results". Twitter is full of fucking morons. I won't be commenting on anything again as I can't be arsed explaining how xG is actually a really good indicator and predictor of a side's true performance to some fucking imbecile. Some of the replies are fantastically simple minded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I get the point but I still don't trust xG. All it does is show how good you are creatively. It takes finishing ability and keeping/blocking ability out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I'm just shocked you're not posting that we're 8th for goals conceded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I'm just shocked you're not posting that we're 8th for goals conceded. Aye it was Bruce who made us good defensively.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I’m getting a public hanging on Twitter for this tweet about local hero Brucie I replied to someone on Twitter talking about Bruce. I mentioned xG and xPoints to highlight the fact that we're in a bit of a false position and was met by several replies along the lines of "Actual goals and points matter, give Bruce a break!!!", "That is the most ridiculous stat anyone could come up with - a pointless statistic", "Stop looking at stats and start looking at results". Twitter is full of fucking morons. I won't be commenting on anything again as I can't be arsed explaining how xG is actually a really good indicator and predictor of a side's true performance to some fucking imbecile. In all honesty, until the bad results are there on paper you're never going to convince anyone with statistics or predictors. Most formulas would've had us losing a number of games this season that we won or drew - they don't really prove anything and certainly aren't going to make people go "oh yeah, you're right" if they're of a different mindset. People will turn on Bruce, it'll happen, but it'll happen as a result of his performance in terms of hard wins and losses, not by people being talked into it. The more you try to convince people, the more they'll resist, especially when we're currently sat 9th in the league after a decent run of form and are 10 points clear of the bottom three by Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I'm just shocked you're not posting that we're 8th for goals conceded. Aye it was Bruce who made us good defensively.... But he made us worse attacking.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I have to stress I'm not a Bruce fan, but selective stats are pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I have to stress I'm not a Bruce fan, but selective stats are pointless. Watching Newcastle is pointless. For all we are sitting 9th in the table, seems like we've lost about 7000 fans coming through the turnstiles week in week out. I wonder how many of the Bruce twitter fans actually have to sit through 90mins of football on match days? Fair play to them if they do, I'd genuinely like to know what they get out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 For all this talk about xG (which I agree is often a good indicator of form) there's one team overperforming even more than us. Hardly see anyone mention it in regards to Liverpool though which I find a bit weird? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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