Rich Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Anyone remember the good old days where we'd have one of these from Robert seemingly every month? Lost in translation, monsieur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rich said: Anyone remember the good old days where we'd have one of these from Robert seemingly every month? Lost in translation, monsieur. Different times now, we loaded! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Translation from French isn’t that difficult, it’s a poor excuse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rich said: Anyone remember the good old days where we'd have one of these from Robert seemingly every month? Lost in translation, monsieur. We did? I can only remember him starting talk about a potential exit towards the end under Souness when he wasn't getting any game time. Nothing about him talking down his own team mates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Robert backed it up by being simply marvellous in everything he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) I do find it ironic that these comments come at a time when the team is performing more efficiently over these past six months than the rest of his time at the club and when he was getting all the plaudits. I said after Watford at home that his patchy performances were worth living with because we don't have much else going forward. But with (hopefully) higher calibre reinforcements arriving this summer, I think next season is his make or break. Where we find out if he thrives with those better players, or if he is more suited to being the big fish in a little pond where he's relied upon as the saviour. I'll readily admit that I'm heavily expecting the latter. Edited May 5, 2022 by wormy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Conjo said: We did? I can only remember him starting talk about a potential exit towards the end under Souness when he wasn't getting any game time. Nothing about him talking down his own team mates. We did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Robert backed it up by being simply marvellous in everything he did. I feel like we look back at Robert with rose tinted specs on. Don't get me wrong, he had more of an end product (certainly in terms of assists) than ASM does, but he would go missing for long stretches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, sushimonster85 said: I feel like we look back at Robert with rose tinted specs on. Don't get me wrong, he had more of an end product (certainly in terms of assists) than ASM does, but he would go missing for long stretches. I'm having none of that. I refuse to accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 But if he's hounded out, who will we turn on then? Do we just double down on Wood? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rich said: We did. "How did the match go for you? I didn't get too many balls. The players still have trouble finding me on the pitch but that will improve with time. The necessary routines will develop. Anyway, at the end of the match I was exhausted. I had played 90 minutes last Saturday and last night I was on the pitch for 120 minutes. Towards the end my legs were a bit heavy.... Still I made the decisive pass for the second goal." "You have in any case a terrific attack. You put 4 goals past Middlesbrough last week and 4 more this weekend past the big Premiership favourite. Where does Newcastle's danger come from? The problem is that we can score at any time but concede goals just the same. We've picked up quite a few since the start of the season and I hope the arrival of Sylvain Distin will stabilise the defence." "How do you explain the problems in the defence? As I already told you, the Newcastle team is comprised of young players who are still lacking experience in defence. To start with, in order to stop conceding goals they have to be meaner. I'm not criticising them, I'm just saying this for the benefit of the team." "One would assume that Bobby Robson is trying to sort out the gaps in the defence. How is he going about it? Truth is, I don't know too much about it. As he talks real fast I understand not everything he says (laughs). It's not easy to catch it all. But I know that this morning, he was yelling. He made them move quite a bit because he doesn't think it's normal that teams who allegedly are weaker than us should play without meeting any resistance." "Seeing as you were watching from the stands, how did you judge this particular Newcastle team? As usual, the play was very much on the right side of the pitch, and I could see many openings on the left. We really should change the system of play so that we can exploit both sides of the pitch. I will talk to Bobby Robson about it to see what he has to say." (Can't be arsed to do any more, but these were all from his first few months with us: https://www.nufc.com/html/robert-1.html.) I don't think ASM's comments are a big deal, basically, but will wait to see the full interview just to see the full context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: But if he's hounded out, who will we turn on then? Do we just double down on Wood? Nobody is hounding him out. Though with stupid comments like he said, he might be trying to hound himself out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBuzzcocks Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Not the kind of attitude you want in the dressing room. Get rid if he keeps this up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rich said: We did. The closest I could find was this extract from Dyers book: Not putting himself above the team like ASM have done, and he was right as well, as opposed to ASM. Other than that it was the post-match incident with that journalist and a warning that he may have to leave if he doesn't get more game time. Any particular examples? Feel like it should be easy to find by googling it but haven't been able to find anything myself except a rumour with no direct quotes about him lashing out at team mates for not passing to him while on loan at Portsmouth. Edit: Didn't see your follow up before posting this. Fair enough, although I don't think either of those quotes are as bad as the one ASM has seemingly made. Edited May 5, 2022 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, reefatoon said: Nobody is hounding him out. Though with stupid comments like he said, he might be trying to hound himself out. Plenty of fans have had the hump with him for months. If the comments sound as bad in context, he should be disciplined internally and we move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 A bit harsh to hound him out, or even discipline him imo I just want him to apologise and then everyone can move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) His comments are indefensible and he should apologise and probably be dropped for them but, to the people who say he doesn’t create chances for people to convert… well, he does: Edited May 5, 2022 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Has shades of Dyer saying he’s as good as Scholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Plenty of fans have had the hump with him for months. If the comments sound as bad in context, he should be disciplined internally and we move on. His performances have been duly criticised as he has been consistently poor over that time. If players are not pulling their weight, fans are allowed to criticise. For me he just doesn’t fit into the ethos of what Howe is trying to put together. Players now want to run through brick walls for each other and that shows in the performances and results. That could change if some knacker decided to spout off crap about his colleagues. Especially when it his him letting himself and the team down with his poor displays. He needs to sort his head out and play his game. He potentially has all the talent in the world but is massively restricted by the way he goes on during matches. One tackle and his head is down and that’s him done. Needs to get over that or he will amount to nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Smal said: His comments are indefensible and he should apologise and probably be dropped for them but, to the people who say he doesn’t create chances for people to convert… well, he does: How many of those over the last three months though? That’s what people are saying. He doesn’t seem the same player at the moment and I think that’s a mind thing. He needs to get his head right to operate effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Wor Flags are amazing and beyond criticism, but I think that display at the Palace match possibly just served to feed into his ego, which really doesn't need any extra feeding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Smal said: His comments are indefensible and he should apologise and probably be dropped for them but, to the people who say he doesn’t create chances for people to convert… well, he does: This list is so suspicious man ... why does it not have any players from the top teams? No Harry Kane, Son, DeBruyne, TAA, Robertson? Really? Not even one of them?! Very, very dodgy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 It says - the other 14, so I’m guessing it’s just looking at players from outside the top 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Smal said: His comments are indefensible and he should apologise and probably be dropped for them but, to the people who say he doesn’t create chances for people to convert… well, he does: What is the context of this stat though? By ‘chance’ do they just mean a pass leading to a shot? I find it very hard to believe he’s created 45 clear chances this season like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: This list is so suspicious man ... why does it not have any players from the top teams? No Harry Kane, Son, DeBruyne, TAA, Robertson? Really? Not even one of them?! Very, very dodgy. "TheOther14" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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