Allan Saint-Maximin (now playing for Fenerbahce, on loan from Al-Ahli)

[Shearergol]

21 minutes ago, LFEE said:

That shouldn’t frustrate you. Just have a stronger squad and manage his fitness. He could literally be the most dangerous substitute in the league at least. Now that you can swap 5 players the emphasis on substitutes is even greater and their playing time much greater with EH asking the players to empty the tanks until nothing left.

 

Anyway I’ve made it clear for months I’d keep him. At least for 12 months more. It have to be silly money on the table for him to let him go heading into this season. Which I don’t think there is in current financial climate.

 

Gotta trust the process whatever happens.

 

It does, because we haven't. Simple as that.

[mighty__mag]

15 minutes ago, Big River said:

most of the discussion has been based around what he offers on the pitch, which is fair enough of course, as that's all we really get to see.

 

but what if (like some people have suspected all along) he's a total nightmare behind the scenes? regularly kicks up a fuss, ignores coaches/staff advice, and is generally just a moody arsehole? would people be happier shifting him knowing that was the case?

 

because not to get all ITK, but I've heard first hand (from sources inside the club) that's he's all of those things above and more. he's really not well liked. so I wouldn't be surprised at all if we're cutting our losses, despite what he can do on the pitch. and he's been told we're finding him a new club.

 

 sorry to make one of those posts, but there you go. don't shot the messenga

 

Gotta be the biggest load of BS I've heard. 

 

Never ever seen him be stroppy, but Gordon only here five minutes and he's already thrown his toys out of the pram after being subbed.

 

Eddie Howe always speaks highly of Saint-Maximin, his relationship with Isak is pretty obvious also.

 

Who's your inside source Heron 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by mighty__mag

[TRon]

14 minutes ago, Big River said:

most of the discussion has been based around what he offers on the pitch, which is fair enough of course, as that's all we really get to see.

 

but what if (like some people have suspected all along) he's a total nightmare behind the scenes? regularly kicks up a fuss, ignores coaches/staff advice, and is generally just a moody arsehole? would people be happier shifting him knowing that was the case?

 

because not to get all ITK, but I've heard first hand (from sources inside the club) that's he's all of those things above and more. he's really not well liked. so I wouldn't be surprised at all if we're cutting our losses, despite what he can do on the pitch. and he's been told we're finding him a new club.

 

 sorry to make one of those posts, but there you go. don't shot the messenga

 

That would be a shame, would only vindicate what Vieiera said about him when he was in France. But if it's true, then I'd happily sell him for a decent fee.

[Gawalls]

4 hours ago, Barnes23 said:

Not sure why it's an absolute necessity for us to make a major sale this summer on FFP grounds. 

 

Don't think any of us know the full extent of what will be financially possible and what won't, or the finer details of FFP, but qualifying for the CL will afford us considerable leeway. Especially as we know the intention isn't to overhaul the squad, but bring in quality in a select number of positions. None of the targets I've seen credibly mentioned so far are really out of step in terms of budget or wages. 

 

 

 

People keep saying qualifying for CL will give us considerable funds but we only get around £16m - the rest is earned on matches won etc.

 

 qualifying as a one off isn’t gonna turn us into Man City spending overnight and FFP isn’t just lip service. It is real so if people think we can keep just buying over and over then their in for a shock.

[Sempiternal]

Only sell if we have a better replacement lined up. And even then it’s a risk. See Sancho/Antony. PL production isn’t easy to find 

[TRon]

Just now, Gawalls said:

People keep saying qualifying for CL will give us considerable funds but we only get around £16m - the rest is earned on matches won etc.

 

 qualifying as a one off isn’t gonna turn us into Man City spending overnight and FFP isn’t just lip service. It is real so if people think we can keep just buying over and over then their in for a shock.

 

CL value is worth more over the long term. It immediately raises our profile so we'll be worth more in sponsorships, more fans getting on board so more shirt sales etc. It's not just about the initial payoff. Obviously the more consistently we qualify the more it compounds, but even one season will have a massive impact.

[SEMTEX]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

CL value is worth more over the long term. It immediately raises our profile so we'll be worth more in sponsorships, more fans getting on board so more shirt sales etc. It's not just about the initial payoff. Obviously the more consistently we qualify the more it compounds, but even one season will have a massive impact.

 

You've got to imagine we can use it to bolster our Saudi interest too, and thus create more dodgy Saudi sponsorship deals to boost our income further.

[Big River]

5 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

 

Gotta be the biggest load of BS I've heard. 

 

Never ever seen him be stroppy, but Gordon only here five minutes and he's already thrown his toys out of the pram after being subbed.

 

Eddie Howe always speaks highly of Saint-Maximin, his relationship with Isak is pretty obvious also.

 

Who's your inside source Heron 

 

would be a bit of a strange thing for me to make up, but hey, I'm not going to argue with you. believe whatever you want!

[TRon]

Just now, SEMTEX said:

 

You've got to imagine we can use it to bolster our Saudi interest too, and thus create more dodgy Saudi sponsorship deals to boost our income further.

 

Yep. Not to mention other middle eastern countries like Egypt, UAE are pretty crazy about football so we could pick up quite a few fans in that part of the world. Maybe not in Iran though.

[Interpolic]

9 minutes ago, Big River said:

most of the discussion has been based around what he offers on the pitch, which is fair enough of course, as that's all we really get to see.

 

but what if (like some people have suspected all along) he's a total nightmare behind the scenes? regularly kicks up a fuss, ignores coaches/staff advice, and is generally just a moody arsehole? would people be happier shifting him knowing that was the case?

 

because not to get all ITK, but I've heard first hand (from sources inside the club) that's he's all of those things above and more. he's really not well liked. so I wouldn't be surprised at all if we're cutting our losses, despite what he can do on the pitch. and he's been told we're finding him a new club.

 

 sorry to make one of those posts, but there you go. don't shot the messenga

 

 

Juicy 

[Gawalls]

4 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

CL value is worth more over the long term. It immediately raises our profile so we'll be worth more in sponsorships, more fans getting on board so more shirt sales etc. It's not just about the initial payoff. Obviously the more consistently we qualify the more it compounds, but even one season will have a massive impact.

Agreed but a one off is not so much cash where people should be saying “yeah we can buy - we’re in the CL now”

[Gawalls]

Admit I’m not his biggest fan but just checked his stats and he got 5 assists last season compared to murphys 2, joelingtons 1, longstaffs 2, miggys 1 etc.

 

 that’s still quite impressive for his limited time.

[Shearergol]

11 minutes ago, Sempiternal said:

Only sell if we have a better replacement lined up. And even then it’s a risk. See Sancho/Antony. PL production isn’t easy to find 

 

Sancho would be AMAZING under Howe. Guarantee it.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

3 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Admit I’m not his biggest fan but just checked his stats and he got 5 assists last season compared to murphys 2, joelingtons 1, longstaffs 2, miggys 1 etc.

 

 that’s still quite impressive for his limited time.

 

Could've had 5 or 6 more if anyone could finish. 

[Matt1892]

13 minutes ago, Sempiternal said:

Only sell if we have a better replacement lined up. And even then it’s a risk. See Sancho/Antony. PL production isn’t easy to find 

Gordon is the replacement.

[Sempiternal]

10 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

Sancho would be AMAZING under Howe. Guarantee it.

I love Howe but can’t see it myself. 

[Sempiternal]

8 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

Gordon is the replacement.

That won’t be enough. Gordon is useful on transitions but relying on him when teams sit deep, which they will next season, is a fools errand imo 

[Gawalls]

11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Could've had 5 or 6 more if anyone could finish. 

Fair but others would have as well

 

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by Gawalls

[AyeDubbleYoo]

True, but if you watch ASM's highlights he really has laid some great chances on a plate for midfielders to miss. Like, fairly standard 'knock that in mate' stuff. 

[The College Dropout]

16 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

Sancho would be AMAZING under Howe. Guarantee it.

No he wouldn't. He doesn't have that work rate or dog in him to succeed at the highest level.

[Matt1892]

7 minutes ago, Sempiternal said:

That won’t be enough. Gordon is useful on transitions but relying on him when teams sit deep, which they will next season, is a fools errand imo 

The issue when teams sit deep will be rectified in other areas of the pitch, which appears to be on the right wing and through the middle from the positions we are looking at.

 

I think Joelinton will start wide left and Willock on the left of midfield, the right is in for a makeover.

[Smal]

54 minutes ago, Big River said:

most of the discussion has been based around what he offers on the pitch, which is fair enough of course, as that's all we really get to see.

 

but what if (like some people have suspected all along) he's a total nightmare behind the scenes? regularly kicks up a fuss, ignores coaches/staff advice, and is generally just a moody arsehole? would people be happier shifting him knowing that was the case?

 

because not to get all ITK, but I've heard first hand (from sources inside the club) that's he's all of those things above and more. he's really not well liked. so I wouldn't be surprised at all if we're cutting our losses, despite what he can do on the pitch. and he's been told we're finding him a new club.

 

 sorry to make one of those posts, but there you go. don't shot the messenga

Can I shoot the messenger? I'm not sure why you would post this unless you can verifiably say it's the certain truth.  

[Big River]

2 minutes ago, Smal said:

Can I shoot the messenger? I'm not sure why you would post this unless you can verifiably say it's the certain truth.  

 

it is the certain truth. where did I allude to it being anything but?

[Doctor Zaius]

4 minutes ago, Smal said:

Can I shoot the messenger? I'm not sure why you would post this unless you can verifiably say it's the certain truth.  

 

Whats more certain than a first hand source inside the club? 

 

[LFEE]

59 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

It does, because we haven't. Simple as that.

The transfer window isn’t even open yet ? Let’s judge at the end of the window but fairly confident it will be strong enough to include ASM. Especially when Manchester United carry the likes of Antony and Sancho.