TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Who cares man, people are allowed to like a player and be gutted they're leaving Honestly, I’m ok with that. I’m just not keen on it being seen as some sort of cosmic injustice. Nowt wrong with not wanting to see ASM leave because you enjoy watching him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Memphis said: this video sums it up really well for me - forget the clickbait title, the actual content is really well-thought out. Clery is great like. Video pretty much sums the situation up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: Clery is great like. Video pretty much sums the situation up perfectly. Yeah, I just watched that earlier. Cleary is the best of the NUFC YouTube pundits for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Clery is great like. Video pretty much sums the situation up perfectly. I think @Kid Icarus hates him but I think he's great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) I am a bit upset about Maxi but mainly for him. He'll make shit loads of money but he's probably already got enough. He'll be their best player though, which I think he will thrive on, I think that's what he wants. He was our best player and isn't far off that in terms of natural ability even now. Edited July 20, 2023 by relámpago blanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’m not gatekeeping - I’m also expressing an opinion. And that opinion is that some of the stuff I’ve seen around ASM’s departure is just odd to me. This isn’t a player who scored in every round of the cup being dropped for the final - it’s a player who scored one goal last season having his apparent destiny snatched away. Fucking hell man, ASM isn’t even close to the best NUFC players I’ve seen who didn’t play CL football. You'd think we weren letting peak David Ginola go, the way some have reacted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wandy said: You'd think we weren letting peak David Ginola go, the way some have reacted. It’s wild to me how people can’t understand why people are so attached to Maxi. Him and Wilson was practically the only good thing about the Bruce era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, gdm said: It’s wild to me how people can’t understand why people are so attached to Maxi. Him and Wilson was practically the only good thing about the Bruce era. Willock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, gdm said: It’s wild to me how people can’t understand why people are so attached to Maxi. Him and Wilson was practically the only good thing about the Bruce era. I understand the sentimental aspect of it completely. The lad was a beacon of hope in a time of utter gloom, but as the team has got better he has got worse. It's the wailing that we have made a huge mistake and have somehow let a top class player go that I have an issue with....not neceessarily on here, but on social media in general. But the simple truth is that he isnt good enough to make the next step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 This argument is all a bit Ben Arfa now… Though of course Hatem was a much better player than Maxi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Shouldn't have watched this so soon, got proper sad. (I hope posting the video is fine) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wandy said: but as the team has got better he has got worse. He posted his best per 90 numbers this season, only behind Wilson and Isak in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pata said: Shouldn't have watched this so soon, got proper sad. (I hope posting the video is fine) No, you should take it down immediately (I’m joking!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, Viana said: I think @Kid Icarus hates him but I think he's great Hate is far too strong a word, I don't know him. I had personal reasons for not liking him years ago but tbf a lot of it was told to me by someone who in hindsight is the biggest pathological liar I've ever known in my life so I'm sure he's probably sound. His videos are decent tbf. I don't always agree but the thought process is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Pata said: He posted his best per 90 numbers this season, only behind Wilson and Isak in the team. That doesnt say much for his previous seasons then tbh. I go off what my eyes see anyway, rather than stats, and the only thing of note he did last season was the Man City performance and the goal at Wolves. Everything else I just found immensely frustrating and a general disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, Wandy said: You'd think we weren letting peak David Ginola go, the way some have reacted. Clearly not given ASM averaged a goal or assist in fewer minutes for us than Ginola did for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: No, you should take it down immediately You used to get in trouble for posting fixture lists and any compilation videos were a massive NO, still not entirely sure about videos but was encouraged by the goal compilation in Barnes thread. Edited July 20, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pata said: You used to get in trouble for posting fixture lists and any compilation videos were a massive NO, still not entirely sure about videos but was encouraged by the goal compilation in Barnes thread. The old HTT and Toontastic forums were shut down for posting fixtures. It used to be a serious thing where only one fan site was allowed to have the rights to post fixtures (always NUFC.com) but then the law changed. Same with videos but now they're YouTube's responsibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pata said: You used to get in trouble for posting fixture lists and any compilation videos were a massive NO, still not entirely sure about videos but was encouraged by the goal compilation in Barnes thread. Got you Compilation videos of player seems an odd one for N-O to want to take down, but it isn’t my rulebook I suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 All fair game these days IMO, people can post streams for all I care. Fuck the police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: Clearly not given ASM averaged a goal or assist in fewer minutes for us than Ginola did for us. I'd actually find that hard to believe, but whatever. David Ginola in his first few months at NUFC is still the most exciting player I have ever seen at the club. And after those months passed he merely went from magical to "just" fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Skeletor said: The old HTT and Toontastic forums were shut down for posting fixtures. It used to be a serious thing where only one fan site was allowed to have the rights to post fixtures (always NUFC.com) but then the law changed. Same with videos but now they're YouTube's responsibility. Interesting, thanks. Should have probably known that's it's down to Youtube know tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 We've gone full circle. Just a couple of weeks ago we were talking about how Ginola is a great example of goals and assists not being the be-all-and-end-all of a player's worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Wandy said: I'd actually find that hard to believe, but whatever. David Ginola in his first few months at NUFC is still the most exciting player I have ever seen at the club. And after those months passed he merely went from magical to "just" fantastic. Yep. Ginola for us in his two seasons had 19 goals and assists in 5195 minutes. Works out at 1 goal involvement every 273 minutes. ASM has 30 goals and assists over 8067 minutes, works out 1 goal involvement per 268 minutes. Marginal but still fewer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wandy said: That doesnt say much for his previous seasons then tbh. I go off what my eyes see anyway, rather than stats, and the only thing of note he did last season was the Man City performance and the goal at Wolves. Everything else I just found immensely frustrating and a general disappointment. Players like ASM are very useful for lower half table sides, as a team set up to counter loves having an ASM. Watching him run at a panicking, back-pedalling defence was always great fun. He can ‘dance’, and those players are always fun to watch. But he isn’t a top level player, and now we are a very good side and as teams sit off us, his usefulness diminishes. And then frustration kicks in, as he sets off on runs from the middle of the pitch into a bank of eight defenders. The player he reminds me most of when he does that is Ketsbaia - ASM is a more talented dribbler, but the outcome was usually the same. I do think that sometimes the idea of ASM outweighs the actuality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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