SUPERTOON Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Reckon that concludes the matter. Only a matter of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Yeah, that seems really positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Surely quoting something so specific isn't keeping it highly confidential ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Definitely positive, you don't say that unless something positive is in the pipeline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Reckon that concludes the matter. Only a matter of time. Agreed. Cat out of the bag there for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Some Scottish MP trying his best to scupper the deal. He really is. Looks like he is pissing Masters off too with his relentless questioning. wouldn't be the same cunt that sent that letter by any chance? he was an SNP MP part of the digital committees thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Reckon that concludes the matter. Only a matter of time. Agreed. Cat out of the bag there for me. have SA said they'll allow prosecution of people in their courts? cause if they don't then i could see that being a major issue based on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Nearly 10.5k have signed that petition. Just shows this place is not a true reflection on the feelings of nufc twitter. There you go. Do their opinions not matter? Sure more people have signed that petition in less than a day than are signed up members to NUST. Didn't say they didn't, but NUFC twitter is not even close to be representative of the fan base. Just ask anyone involved in any of the protest work be it Pardew, Ashley stuff, walk outs etc. What's NUST got to do with it? It’s a large enough group of people to be taken seriously And comparable in numbers to NUST, so should not dismissed or looked down upon. Some will also be members of NUST. People on here have called it pathetic, for me looking down upon fellow NUFC fans for venting their frustration in a calm manner is way beyond pathetic. I haven't. But I haven't signed it as I think it's a little dangerous asking for a solution now - if people want the takeover then we simply have to wait until the Premier League approve it. There are clearly incredibly complex issues they are considering. Pushing them to do it quicker - while unlikely to have any influence - if it did, would surely more likely result in a refusal and us being stuck with Ashley going forward? The NUST letter on behalf of their members might have no impact either, in fact it probably will not, but it was a very strong point by point legal rebuttal of some of the nonsense claims by Qatar re the WTO report and others that have written to the Premier League, undertaken by a specialist barrister from 3 Hare Court Chambers and was sent directly to Richard Masters by legal counsel. I haven’t signed it either, simply as I see no point in it. Those petitions don’t work, even for serious issues, so I don’t think it matters in terms of speeding things up, but clearly shows a united front of a group of supporters venting their frustrations in a better manner than we have done previously. Again, for me won’t make a difference. I’m all for the letter sent by NUST, I think it’s was a good reach out and not one done for the spotlight as others have done, backed up with not publishing the contents. So all in I agree mainly with what you say there, the thing I’m not comfortable with is the dismissal of 10k supporters voices as twitter noise, it’s more than that and the number should be respected by all NUFC fans considering it’s not even 24 hours. Ps, not sure how many voted in that poll where 97% wanted the takeover, but I’m sure it was also hosted on Twitter (might be wrong) Pps...just think what 5 twats with a coffin can do for your fans image a decade on, a petition is a good place to keep all that energy focused in one spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Surely quoting something so specific isn't keeping it highly confidential ? Aye every time he has been interviewed he keeps saying confidential and then says something which goes against that. Mind what he did say looked a positive indication it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Surely quoting something so specific isn't keeping it highly confidential ? Aye every time he has been interviewed he keeps saying confidential and then says something which goes against that. Mind what he did say looked a positive indication it seems. This is just a guy who's been heavily briefed by lawyers about what he can and cannot say without breaking any agreements. There is strong hints in there that they've asked KSA to sort all the piracy stuff, but he doesn't actually confirm or deny anything, other than that. Biggest thing to take from it, is that there is no outright 'no' yet. Interestingly/amusingly nothing on Amnesty or the Cenig woman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Well this has turned. What's happened like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Important line here ? Reckon that concludes the matter. Only a matter of time. Agreed. Cat out of the bag there for me. I agree with the positive sentiments, although Masters was very professional throughout and gave away nothing. Only stumbling block is that traditionally KSA are very good in promising things and not delivering. Will they really allow independent foreign monitoring on IP rights? That's something they just don't do.. whether it's on human rights topics, oil reserves, media freedom, terrorist links or any other internal Saudi matter. Somehow I can't see BeIN's lawyers being welcomed with open arms in Riyadh. Still, they'll get the PL's approval one way or another. It will probably take a couple more months though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 But he hasn’t commented on the takeover. The Saudi/Bein thing was there before and is a separate matter, although it clearly affects the proposed transfer. He can talk about it because it’s a separate legal matter. My hunch would be they are waiting on KSA to give some water right assurances (On paper) of access to their court system if such a thing like BeoutQ were to pop up again. Once that’s in place, the takeover will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Just conclude it, masters. Ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 The human rights record was soon off the table once money from tv rights came in the picture Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 So why are beIN now more confident that it's going to be rejected? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 and to allow sports rights-holders to take their rights this is pretty telling for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 and to allow sports rights-holders to take their rights this is pretty telling for me Never gonna happen imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Nearly 10.5k have signed that petition. Just shows this place is not a true reflection on the feelings of nufc twitter. There you go. Do their opinions not matter? Sure more people have signed that petition in less than a day than are signed up members to NUST. Didn't say they didn't, but NUFC twitter is not even close to be representative of the fan base. Just ask anyone involved in any of the protest work be it Pardew, Ashley stuff, walk outs etc. What's NUST got to do with it? It’s a large enough group of people to be taken seriously And comparable in numbers to NUST, so should not dismissed or looked down upon. Some will also be members of NUST. People on here have called it pathetic, for me looking down upon fellow NUFC fans for venting their frustration in a calm manner is way beyond pathetic. I haven't. But I haven't signed it as I think it's a little dangerous asking for a solution now - if people want the takeover then we simply have to wait until the Premier League approve it. There are clearly incredibly complex issues they are considering. Pushing them to do it quicker - while unlikely to have any influence - if it did, would surely more likely result in a refusal and us being stuck with Ashley going forward? The NUST letter on behalf of their members might have no impact either, in fact it probably will not, but it was a very strong point by point legal rebuttal of some of the nonsense claims by Qatar re the WTO report and others that have written to the Premier League, undertaken by a specialist barrister from 3 Hare Court Chambers and was sent directly to Richard Masters by legal counsel. I haven’t signed it either, simply as I see no point in it. Those petitions don’t work, even for serious issues, so I don’t think it matters in terms of speeding things up, but clearly shows a united front of a group of supporters venting their frustrations in a better manner than we have done previously. Again, for me won’t make a difference. I’m all for the letter sent by NUST, I think it’s was a good reach out and not one done for the spotlight as others have done, backed up with not publishing the contents. So all in I agree mainly with what you say there, the thing I’m not comfortable with is the dismissal of 10k supporters voices as twitter noise, it’s more than that and the number should be respected by all NUFC fans considering it’s not even 24 hours. Ps, not sure how many voted in that poll where 97% wanted the takeover, but I’m sure it was also hosted on Twitter (might be wrong) Pps...just think what 5 t***s with a coffin can do for your fans image a decade on, a petition is a good place to keep all that energy focused in one spot. It was a member survey, sent only to members via survey monkey or one of those things. I was being facetious in response to your point about this place not being representative of the wider fan base (which I agree with) - we don't appear to really be disagreeing and clearly it is a little more than twitter noise - but my point being in general, all my experience in this sort of thing is that twitter (where we've seen most of the traction for the petition) clearly isn't respective of the wider fan base either - we've seen that time and time again over the years with loads of noise on twitter and little to no action on the ground by the masses that still descend on SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Rights holders for tv rights > livelihood of football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter. Bungs, watches, holidays, nice cars, promise of a future well paid jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Rights holders for tv rights > livelihood of football club literally everything else. fyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppy Chop Chop Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 So deflated with all this, in a nutshell can someone say currently if it looks on or off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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