Guest reefatoon Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, St1pe said: It’s not that baffling. Murphy is more athletic and is tactically really solid. It’s the zero end product that’s his issue. Fraser looked like he had neither. Which isn’t great for one of your attacking front three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Fraser must be finished like, he was genuinely a good player last year but even then people were saying he’d lost a yard of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Did he leave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Don't like this news. Must have been a fallout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Can't imagine Fraser would've been too chuffed to be named on the bench down at Bournemouth, but it's clear he's had no future here for a good while now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 So strange Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Tbf, I've never really understood why he's always, always behind Jacob Murphy in the pecking order. He's lost a yard of pace and I know Murphy's a bit of a cheerleader, but Fraser's a much better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Wonder what happened in January. Think it was Hull he was linked with late in the day, wasn't it? Strange that nothing materialised; he's clearly got the versatility and stamina to be of use to someone in the Championship. If there's been a fall out of some description then it makes sense to remove him from the first team squad. Howe obviously places a lot on a harmonious dressing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Tbf, I've never really understood why he's always, always behind Jacob Murphy in the pecking order. He's lost a yard of pace and I know Murphy's a bit of a cheerleader, but Fraser's a much better player. Whenever I’ve watched Fraser, it doesn’t seem like he has the physical capability to play at any decent level, never mind the way we try and play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Tbf, I've never really understood why he's always, always behind Jacob Murphy in the pecking order. He's lost a yard of pace and I know Murphy's a bit of a cheerleader, but Fraser's a much better player. Every possibility he's a bit of a bad apple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Tbf, I've never really understood why he's always, always behind Jacob Murphy in the pecking order. He's lost a yard of pace and I know Murphy's a bit of a cheerleader, but Fraser's a much better player. Think Murphy's improved quite a bit as that off-the-bench option tbh. We know he can hassle and press and the shithousery goes without saying, but I think he's contributed on the ball too; the Fulham win being the stand-out. Think it was the Southampton first leg which I can remember him standing-out in as well. Deffo 'playing for his future' vibes, and has a brilliant attitude too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Whenever I’ve watched Fraser, it doesn’t seem like he has the physical capability to play at any decent level, never mind the way we try and play. Don't see how you'd see he can't play at any level like, that's mad. Even then, less so than Murphy? I thought he looked okay at the back end of last season tbh. Pressed well, scored and assisted at both RW and LW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Don't see how you'd see he can't play at any level like, that's mad. Even then, less so than Murphy? I thought he looked okay at the back end of last season tbh. Pressed well, scored and assisted at both RW and LW. I mean decent level for us (he could do a job in the championship). And I’m not saying he’s worse than Murphy either, he’s also championship level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I've seen Murphy have a really good 20 or so minutes vs a tired Ashley Young vs Villa and against 10 men Fulham, and that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I think the big reason it's Murphy over him is simply due to the way we play and our high press, Murphy offers much more in that defensive side of the game and is a like for like replacement in terms of energy for Miggy, even if his end product is noticeably worse and I doubt Fraser could do anything close to that, his game is naturally suited to a slower counter attacking play style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Wish Hope would just sit on these fucking stories for a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I've said it before, Hope doing our bidding against Bruce masked the fact that he's a bit of a slimey arsehole imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I've seen Murphy have a really good 20 or so minutes vs a tired Ashley Young vs Villa and against 10 men Fulham, and that's it. Think that's a bit harsh. I've always been a pretty big critic of Murphy but he's made a lot of positive contributions off the bench thud season imo. Even going back to the Wolves game in August, his pace in behind ultimately led to the opportunity for Maxi to ping that thunderbastard in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Maybe he's been moved to pick on someone his own size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Wish Hope would just sit on these fucking stories for a week. literally not the week to be throwing out this stuff. It’s time to Galvanize the fucking reader base of the north east. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kanji said: literally not the week to be throwing out this stuff. It’s time to Galvanize the fucking reader base of the north east. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Doesn't call himself a fan despite shoe-horning himself onto every fan podcast and youtube channel going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I don’t really view this as bad news. He’s obviously been whinging and Howe has dealt with it to focus on the players he’ll use. He could have been on the bench for the final. Given the circumstances he left Bournemouth in im entirely unsurprised how his career will end here. What is surprising is how utterly useless he’s been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, 54 said: That is honestly the biggest horse shit yet. He’s absolutely a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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