Callum Wilson

[Fak]

Absolutely diddly squat wrong with what he's said. He's been a quality signing for us, given us some great memories and pivotal in saving us from relegation under Bruce and getting us Champions League under Howe. Of course you want players to be disappointed and frustrated when they're not playing. Be great if he can sign off with a goal at the weekend and wish him nowt but the best. 

[gbandit]

Have no issue with him wanting to go, just wish it had been last summer or January before last and we could have extracted some value. Never warmed to him much as a fan even though he’s been an excellent signing for us overall. Desperate for him to go now though, heart sinks when he gets on before Osula 

[Displayname]

Good for him. Convinced he is leaving after those comments, which I guess is best for everyone. 

Good luck to him wherever he ends up.

[Sibierski]

Wilson is someone who I can see being like Deeney post retirement. Chip on his shoulder and mess as a ‘pundit’.

[Crimson Cardigan]

I’m not sure what people expect him to say, he’s nearly out of contract he has to talk himself up.

[BergenMagpie]

36 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Wilson is someone who I can see being like Deeney post retirement. Chip on his shoulder and mess as a ‘pundit’.

Think he’d make a good figure on the TV- seems like such a likeable lad

[Chris_R]

Always liked him as a player, never caused any issues off the field either and at his best he's a great striker, hence the England caps which were fully deserved.

 

He's leaving us because he doesn't play often enough? Fine. No issue there. But on the flip side we should be getting rid of him because he isn't available to play often enough.

[TheBrownBottle]

 Top no.9 when fit, he’s absolutely in the argument for me when it comes to the third position on the podium for best NUFC centre forward in my lifetime

 

But the injuries and age have taken their toll, and it’s time to wave goodbye.  I hope that we are 5-0 up with ten mins to go vs Everton and he gets a send-off.  Onwards and upwards, hopefully we get an upgrade in the summer (though not in the looks department - our squad is about 20% less handsome automatically)

[PauloGeordio]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

 Top no.9 when fit, he’s absolutely in the argument for me when it comes to the third position on the podium for best NUFC centre forward in my lifetime

 

But the injuries and age have taken their toll, and it’s time to wave goodbye.  I hope that we are 5-0 up with ten mins to go vs Everton and he gets a send-off.  Onwards and upwards, hopefully we get an upgrade in the summer (though not in the looks department - our squad is about 20% less handsome automatically)

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by PauloGeordio

[SteV]

People often bemoan a lack of loyalty from players, obviously Trent at Liverpool being the most recent example. 
 

But look at this thread. How much loyalty is there from fans to players? Once a player is seen as no longer being up to scratch it’s “get rid”, “fuck him off” etc. 

 

It’s hardly surprising players nearly always look after themselves first and foremost.

[JP]

1 hour ago, SteV said:

People often bemoan a lack of loyalty from players, obviously Trent at Liverpool being the most recent example. 
 

But look at this thread. How much loyalty is there from fans to players? Once a player is seen as no longer being up to scratch it’s “get rid”, “fuck him off” etc. 

 

It’s hardly surprising players nearly always look after themselves first and foremost.

 

I think there is a difference when a player is coming into the twilight of his career like Wilson?

 

Its obvious for all parties that this summer is the one he leaves.

 

Don't think thats disloyal as a fan to think so.

 

 

[SteV]

6 minutes ago, JP said:

 

I think there is a difference when a player is coming into the twilight of his career like Wilson?

 

Its obvious for all parties that this summer is the one he leaves.

 

Don't think thats disloyal as a fan to think so.

 

 

Of course, but it probably comes down to how it’s expressed I suppose (even though that probably comes across as a bit thin-skinned).

 

“I think it’s probably time for him to move on” feels a lot different to “wish he would just fuck off”.

[TheBrownBottle]

36 minutes ago, SteV said:

People often bemoan a lack of loyalty from players, obviously Trent at Liverpool being the most recent example. 
 

But look at this thread. How much loyalty is there from fans to players? Once a player is seen as no longer being up to scratch it’s “get rid”, “fuck him off” etc. 

 

It’s hardly surprising players nearly always look after themselves first and foremost.

It’s a mercenary industry and always was - there is no such thing as loyalty in football and hasn’t been since the dawn of professionalism

[SteV]

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s a mercenary industry and always was - there is no such thing as loyalty in football and hasn’t been since the dawn of professionalism

From either side.

[Aiston]

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I think I’ve been fit now four-and-a-half months

 

Jesus christ 

 

Shows how finished he is, hasn't shown anything in all these appearances.

[Monters]

Years ago - pre Bosman the clubs had major power over players, probably more so on the continent than UK as we did have free transfers if a contract wasn't offered with wage parity. But the clubs could still threaten to hold registrations etc. and force players to accept insurance pay offs with long injury lay offs.

Now I would say the balance has shifted totally to the players... they have the talent so you could argue rightly slow but it's maybe gone too far... Still doesn't excuse some of the vitriol I've read here recently but still it's easy behind a keyboard! 

He types from behind his keyboard 

[Norseman]

14 minutes ago, SteV said:

Of course, but it probably comes down to how it’s expressed I suppose (even though that probably comes across as a bit thin-skinned).

 

“I think it’s probably time for him to move on” feels a lot different to “wish he would just fuck off”.

To be fair, I think most people here wish him the best and are thankful for his time here.

 

The thing is, he offers very little now, and it would be foolish to keep him around for the good times in the past.

[nufcjmc]

Only thing elite about him now is his pay packet so long Callum go prove yourself elsewhere. 

 

 

[SteV]

6 minutes ago, Norseman said:

To be fair, I think most people here wish him the best and are thankful for his time here.

You may well be right, and I’d like to think there’d be a bit of a tone shift once it’s formally announced he’s leaving.

[The College Dropout]

15 hours ago, STM said:

Hes a PL striker with an ego, of course he's disappointed he's not starting. He knows fine well he's not as good as Isak but he's not going to say it. 

 

Wish him all the best, thanks for making the Bruce era less torturous than it could have been, good look in the future. We move on.

Here here. 

[TheBrownBottle]

31 minutes ago, SteV said:

From either side.

Never has been.  Football fans are as loyal as performances allow - if a player hasn’t performed, no-one ever argues that we should cling on to them 

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, Monters said:

Years ago - pre Bosman the clubs had major power over players, probably more so on the continent than UK as we did have free transfers if a contract wasn't offered with wage parity. But the clubs could still threaten to hold registrations etc. and force players to accept insurance pay offs with long injury lay offs.

Now I would say the balance has shifted totally to the players... they have the talent so you could argue rightly slow but it's maybe gone too far... Still doesn't excuse some of the vitriol I've read here recently but still it's easy behind a keyboard! 

He types from behind his keyboard 

Why has it gone too far? If you want to move employers - you just do it + a notice period. Why are footballers different? They have a defined contract when it ends they are free to move as they wish.  
 

Multiple players hang on for years when not producing because of contracts, I wouldn’t put Wilson in that bracket.  
 

I look at football from an employee vs employee perspective and I stand with players in most situations. Only thing I don’t support is forcing moves.  I also don’t support clubs forcing contracted players out. 

[Monters]

18 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Why has it gone too far? If you want to move employers - you just do it + a notice period. Why are footballers different? They have a defined contract when it ends they are free to move as they wish.  
 

Multiple players hang on for years when not producing because of contracts, I wouldn’t put Wilson in that bracket.  
 

I look at football from an employee vs employee perspective and I stand with players in most situations. Only thing I don’t support is forcing moves.  I also don’t support clubs forcing contracted players out. 

Much, much easier to force moves but part of that is the value of wages etc.   

[The College Dropout]

34 minutes ago, Monters said:

Much, much easier to force moves but part of that is the value of wages etc.   

it’s only super disruptive characters that tend to force moves too. Harry Kane tried but conceded. Zaha never tried to force one and spent his best years at Palace. 
 

As you say it’s mostly a value thing too.  
 

I also think some players are badly advised. Harry Kane’s brother led him to sign away the best years of his career to Spurs based on a handshake with Levy.  
 

Zero issue with Wilson.  Been a fantastic player for us. Not his fault he gets minutes over Osula. His ability is limited now but he still gives his best.  

[Monters]

Totally agree!

 

None of it was meant as a dig at Wilson, one of my favorites since Shearer... the way he & Bruno played against Arsenal, in the last home game of the take over season is still one of my best memories of being at St. James'

Don't want to open a can of worms but I haven't seen a great deal from Osula that suggests he should be getting more minutes but I have a very limited sample as we all do I guess.