Elliot Anderson (now playing for Nottingham Forest)

[gbandit]

Injury? He had quite a few niggling injuries last year that slowed his progress. Let’s hope it’s fairly benign 

[Ronson333]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12959155/elliot-anderson-england-and-scotland-battle-for-newcastle-midfielder-steve-clarke-hes-got-a-choice-to-make
 

England boss Gareth Southgate: "We liked him and we do like him. We think he's a player that's doing really well"

 

[gdm]

On 07/09/2023 at 17:24, gbandit said:

Injury? He had quite a few niggling injuries last year that slowed his progress. Let’s hope it’s fairly benign 

Don’t think there’s anything wrong with him tbh. Reckon he’s been tapped up by England and dropped out

[joeyt]

 

 

 

[Ronson333]

On whether he's spoken to Newcastle midfielder Eliot Anderson about playing for England, Kieran Trippier said: "In pre-season he was unbelievable.

"It was good for him last season to stay with us, gain that experience and not go out on loan.

"He's a young lad with great potential. Obviously we've had talks but ultimately it's his decision."

[GEFAFWISP]

Got to hope he gets to feature a bit more in the coming weeks, give England U21s a selection choice.

[andycap]

Southgate makes a rod for his own back. By playing oaps in the team instead of blooding in young talent. Now Anderson and Barnes are looking at Scotland what could he say to change there minds? Your in our plans but not until Henderson hits forty. 

[andycap]

Lets be honest in the two tournaments we done well in. we could of won if we had a better manager at the helm. The italy game in the final oldest backline in history yet we knick a goal and sit back for the rest of the match. Should of terrorised them with our wingers

[The Prophet]

35 minutes ago, andycap said:

Lets be honest in the two tournaments we done well in. we could of won if we had a better manager at the helm. The italy game in the final oldest backline in history yet we knick a goal and sit back for the rest of the match. Should of terrorised them with our wingers

 

We've had better managers who've failed to progress in tournaments, so I don't think that's necessarily right.

[andycap]

17 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

We've had better managers who've failed to progress in tournaments, so I don't think that's necessarily right.

We have a top team he doesn't know how to change things up soon as the tide turns against us. 

[The Prophet]

6 minutes ago, andycap said:

We have a top team he doesn't know how to change things up soon as the tide turns against us. 

 

The Southgate debate has been done to death, but there's a reason he's one of England's most successful managers.

 

He's tactically limited and his favouritism is becoming worse over time, but his tournament record is very good.

 

[joeyt]

All this talk about him possibly playing for England seems incredibly premature 

[Novocastrian]

Hardly a huge achievement for Southgate to get England into the 2018 semi-finals. Finish second in the group to Belgium and then beat Colombia and Sweden.

 

Would have been outrageous to not reach the semis. Agree that the debate has been done to death but let's dispense with the 'one of England's best ever managers' trope.

 

He's extremely average and limited, a corporate FA suit.

[gbandit]

I don’t think he’s a corporate FA suit, I think he speaks really well on a lot of issues and is a decent person. I think he’s brought the England squad together in a way that many managers massively struggled with in the past. His issues are with team selection and tactics, neither are making the best use of the players 

[Novocastrian]

It's unfortunate that he's better at the social media aspect of football management than he is the actual player selection and tactics. I hope the next manager has more of a grip on his remit.

[Rod]

1 hour ago, Novocastrian said:

Hardly a huge achievement for Southgate to get England into the 2018 semi-finals. Finish second in the group to Belgium and then beat Colombia and Sweden.

 

Would have been outrageous to not reach the semis. Agree that the debate has been done to death but let's dispense with the 'one of England's best ever managers' trope.

 

He's extremely average and limited, a corporate FA suit.

Couldn't agree more.  Well put.

[Rod]

56 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I don’t think he’s a corporate FA suit, I think he speaks really well on a lot of issues and is a decent person. I think he’s brought the England squad together in a way that many managers massively struggled with in the past. His issues are with team selection and tactics, neither are making the best use of the players 

The point being, England will have a multitude of staff.  Coaches, fitness gurus, dieticians etc.  They all contribute to the comeraderie of the team not just Southgate.  So I think you are being over generous in your assumption "he's brought the squad together".  You just have to look at the Newcastle backroom staff.  Southgates job as you say are team selection, tactics and formations of which he is extremely average and that's me being kind.

[Skeletor]

Southgate needs to step aside. Let a manager with fresh ideas come in and let new players get a chance. As an England supporter there's no way we should be letting Scotland have Elliott or Barnes. Henderson's international career should have been over the second he went to the Saudi league to play kick about with Stevie G.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by Skeletor

[OverThere]

England selection is a joke. Southgate spends most of his time at Crystal Palace and definitely not much time outside of the M25.

[Shak]

3 hours ago, joeyt said:

All this talk about him possibly playing for England seems incredibly premature 

 

Aye, he can't get a game for us with Willock injured and Joelinton hobbling around the place.

 

Think he'll become a decent top flight player but I'll be amazed if he ever plays more than a couple of friendlies for England considering the depth of quality you have.

[KDT]

2 minutes ago, Shak said:

 

Aye, he can't get a game for us with Willock injured and Joelinton hobbling around the place.

 

Think he'll become a decent top flight player but I'll be amazed if he ever plays more than a couple of friendlies for England considering the depth of quality you have.

 

He's 20 and trying to get into one of the best teams in the league, give the lad some time.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by KDT

[Shak]

1 minute ago, KDT said:

 

He's 20 and trying to get into one of the best teams in the league, give the lad some time.

 

 

 

 

I mean, I personally think he should have started at least a couple of games for us so far.

 

Not meant as a knock on him, more just the immense quality England have in their squad.

 

Be delighted if he proves me wrong and become a top player.

 

I'd also be fine with England's talent drying up and him getting a game down the road that way

[gdm]

On 12/09/2023 at 10:06, joeyt said:

All this talk about him possibly playing for England seems incredibly premature 

It’s only happened because Scotland have tried to cap him, he pulled out and Southgate was asked about it. If Scotland hadn’t tried to cap him and if he hadn’t pulled out ‘injured’ his name wouldn’t have been uttered in connection with England once this weekend. Him pulling out of the scotland squad is what has made this the story not anything he’s done in his career so far 

[54]

Didn't look out of place at all like, he didn't do anything particularly exceptionally, but he looked comfortable in possession, and got back and did his defensive work well. If this is his base in which he's going to grow from, we've got a player.

[The Butcher]

His spot to lose now.