Guest Mantis Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 There is very little chance this bunch of heartless players will kee us up. 33 played, 6 wins. To win 3 at home or away is a big ask, considering the previous efforts in the last 15 home games. Today again, they showed no fight, no idea about the new system, no creativity and regardless of support and a legend on the touchline, no signs of motivation or commitment to the cause. But hey, lets not criticise them. Dear me, they deserve nothing and the only positive is that most of this bunch will f*** off before next season starts and I wont have to see them wearing a shirt they dont deserve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Did the predictor: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3689/finaltablew.jpg You do realize that means nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Did the predictor: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3689/finaltablew.jpg i assume you did something else first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Did the predictor: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3689/finaltablew.jpg Are you on glue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Square Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I think we will win our home games and draw at Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 There is very little chance this bunch of heartless players will kee us up. 33 played, 6 wins. To win 3 at home or away is a big ask, considering the previous efforts in the last 15 home games. Today again, they showed no fight, no idea about the new system, no creativity and regardless of support and a legend on the touchline, no signs of motivation or commitment to the cause. But hey, lets not criticise them. Dear me, they deserve nothing and the only positive is that most of this bunch will f*** off before next season starts and I wont have to see them wearing a shirt they dont deserve. We just need to start with Viduka Owen and Martins for our 3 home games and I think we'll win all 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stjamestoon Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 What is sad, Boro and Sunderland could stay up and we go down. How bad would that be! What is sad is that you are even thinking such a thing could happen. Get a grip man! It could happen, dont be so naive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stjamestoon Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 There is very little chance this bunch of heartless players will kee us up. 33 played, 6 wins. To win 3 at home or away is a big ask, considering the previous efforts in the last 15 home games. Today again, they showed no fight, no idea about the new system, no creativity and regardless of support and a legend on the touchline, no signs of motivation or commitment to the cause. But hey, lets not criticise them. Dear me, they deserve nothing and the only positive is that most of this bunch will f*** off before next season starts and I wont have to see them wearing a shirt they dont deserve. Well said, they were shite yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 There is very little chance this bunch of heartless players will kee us up. 33 played, 6 wins. To win 3 at home or away is a big ask, considering the previous efforts in the last 15 home games. Today again, they showed no fight, no idea about the new system, no creativity and regardless of support and a legend on the touchline, no signs of motivation or commitment to the cause. But hey, lets not criticise them. Dear me, they deserve nothing and the only positive is that most of this bunch will f*** off before next season starts and I wont have to see them wearing a shirt they dont deserve. We just need to start with Viduka Owen and Martins for our 3 home games and I think we'll win all 3 And what are the chances of those 3 staying fit? Even if they did, I dont believe Shearer would start with that lineup, otherwise why did he not start that way today instead of waiting to chase a match? You are also forgetting that the midfield would offer almost no opportunities to those 3 and the back 3, 4, 8 or whatever are incapable of tackling the opposition or closing them down. Blind faith needs a reality check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stjamestoon Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Yeah to be fair we could play Torress and Rooney up front for the remainder of the season, it will make no difference as we are creating FUCK ALL. That's why we are in this mess and thats why our strikers dont even look like scoring. You wait and see owen, martins etc be banging em in next season for a more confident and creative team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 This thread is quite embarassing on reflection... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 most points in the thread are just being realistic and honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 most points in the thread are just being realistic and honest I agree, I just meant the timing that it was actually began, and the amount of responses it had recieved within such a short time. To even begin thinking your going down at the end of November is disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 most points in the thread are just being realistic and honest I agree, I just meant the timing that it was actually began, and the amount of responses it had recieved within such a short time. To even begin thinking your going down at the end of November is disgraceful. But they were right though werent they ? I would just call that being very aware of our deficiencies and having seen it all before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 we need a team with Viduka, Martins, Owen, Guthrie and Barton in it but thats just not gonna happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 most points in the thread are just being realistic and honest I agree, I just meant the timing that it was actually began, and the amount of responses it had recieved within such a short time. To even begin thinking your going down at the end of November is disgraceful. But they were right though werent they ? I would just call that being very aware of our deficiencies and having seen it all before I would call it building your own coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Was trawling back through the pages to see what embarrassing guff i came out with, but it seems what i thought might happen - did. (Not trying to be all "look i was right, " here btw.) It was always a case of teams pulling away from the pack and relieving the tightness, and it's never really happened - such is the amount of shite that's in the league this year. There's a couple of gaps opening up but i mean, we can only just say the likes of Stoke are safe. I had a feeling that if it remained tight, we wouldn't be good enough to pull away. I'm kinda abstaining atm with a 5. It's a possibility but it's not likely. The concerning thing is that everyone is expecting it to stop being really, really tight. There's no guarantee for that whatsoever.* There is only one team who i think are nailed to stay down there all the time, and that's West Brom. Other than that, i mean who? Stoke maybe, but they're very good at home? It's a conundrum - there's no teams that are guaranteed to slip away. Nor is their a guarantee that we'll continue to be this team that's hard to beat. Yeah, you can say that we ain't lost at home - but we've only won a couple and we hardly come across unbeatable at SJP. This coming weekend will be a very telling one. If we haven't pulled away from this pack by February/March sorta time, i'll increase to a 7, because we haven't got a good enough manager to mastermind us away from such a dilemma. 5 atm. We'll be able to tell a lot better with the next three games or so. *Serie A, think it was about three seasons ago, with a couple of weeks to go, Roma could still have gone down and were sitting in tenth. I know they're different leagues but i'm just proving that it can happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Was trawling back through the pages to see what embarrassing guff i came out with, but it seems what i thought might happen - did. (Not trying to be all "look i was right, " here btw.) It was always a case of teams pulling away from the pack and relieving the tightness, and it's never really happened - such is the amount of s**** that's in the league this year. There's a couple of gaps opening up but i mean, we can only just say the likes of Stoke are safe. I had a feeling that if it remained tight, we wouldn't be good enough to pull away. I'm kinda abstaining atm with a 5. It's a possibility but it's not likely. The concerning thing is that everyone is expecting it to stop being really, really tight. There's no guarantee for that whatsoever.* There is only one team who i think are nailed to stay down there all the time, and that's West Brom. Other than that, i mean who? Stoke maybe, but they're very good at home? It's a conundrum - there's no teams that are guaranteed to slip away. Nor is their a guarantee that we'll continue to be this team that's hard to beat. Yeah, you can say that we ain't lost at home - but we've only won a couple and we hardly come across unbeatable at SJP. This coming weekend will be a very telling one. If we haven't pulled away from this pack by February/March sorta time, i'll increase to a 7, because we haven't got a good enough manager to mastermind us away from such a dilemma. 5 atm. We'll be able to tell a lot better with the next three games or so. *Serie A, think it was about three seasons ago, with a couple of weeks to go, Roma could still have gone down and were sitting in tenth. I know they're different leagues but i'm just proving that it can happen. I appreciate that many comments made will be accurate to date. However, the fact that relegation was in our heads so early in my opinion has been a contributory factor in where we are now at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I'm starting to think that it's going to be Hull, us, and West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 We're not the ones appointing Joe Kinnear and picking the team like... A capable set of individuals would have played well amongst the crowd's ill-feeling/given the crowd something to feel positive about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 We're not the ones appointing Joe Kinnear and picking the team like... A capable set of individuals would have played well amongst the crowd's ill-feeling/given the crowd something to feel positive about. A capable set of indivuals would have the self belief that they wouldn't get into such a mess....which is what I believe has been our flaw - both on and off the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Ah yeah - fair enough, when you were referring to we/us/our - i thought you meant the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Ah yeah - fair enough, when you were referring to we/us/our - i thought you meant the fans. I was referring to everyone involved with the club, but the players in particular. E.g. When we as fans lack enthusiasm and belief (who should probably have it more than anyone else due to our loyalty to the club, passion for our area, etc) and when our players beleive they are useless for whatever reason. Just everyone. It's just the players are the only people who can massively make the difference, but as supporters we can do our bit too as (in) effective as we may be.... Look at Stoke - their home form has driven them to safety because teams fear going there - the atmosphere seems great most the time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Look at Stoke - their home form has driven them to safety because teams fear going there - the atmosphere seems great most the time... Conversley, Fulham appear to have a very non-intimidatory atmosphere at Craven Cottage yet they have had a much better season. What helps you attain anything close to success is having a good manager and its NUFC's lack of focus on this that has got us where we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Look at Stoke - their home form has driven them to safety because teams fear going there - the atmosphere seems great most the time... Conversley, Fulham appear to have a very non-intimidatory atmosphere at Craven Cottage yet they have had a much better season. What helps you attain anything close to success is having a good manager and its NUFC's lack of focus on this that has got us where we are. I agree to a certain extent, hwoever I am of the opinion that the lack of self belief on and off the pitch is contributing to our current plight equally as much if not more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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