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Current bottom three are going down. 1 European Cup, 15 FA Cups, 5 League Cups and 17 top flight league titles between them.

 

f***ing disgraceful.

Tyneside and Wearside used to be industrial powerhouses, as did the Midlands with the Motor Industry....as the country has declined in that respect, so have these areas ; the history of these clubs counts for nothing and if NUFC were getting Boro's crowds, nobody would bat an eyelid about our relegation...OR the other two either.

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You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production.

 

The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement.

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You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production.

 

The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement.

 

The mismanagement of us, Villa and you lot will take us all down this season. Not many fans of other clubs will care because us and Villa have stunk the league out for ages and Ashley has tried to run the club like a Sports Direct shop.

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It was the hope that was the worst part of yesterday. We clawed ourselves back into a position where a draw would have been ok and then working a blink of an eye we're down.

 

I hate this feeling like you're staring into the abyss. Will we come back up? What players will stay? Who will be the manager? and what bs will the board pull? All shit questions that no one can possibly know the answer too yet they'll drag on all summer.

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the players have proved they have it in them, look at many many second half performances , the latest being yesterday.

 

proving the arrogance of them going into a match thinking they are better than they are, they need the kick up the arse at half time and then play, proving its these fuking numpties on the pitch, I thought once Rafa came in they'd up their game but they haven't.

 

nailed on down and in truth have been since xmas, the disgusting apathy they have has potentially killed this place for years, its just a shame when at last we have a manager with half a brain.

 

I lay this all at MA door, we knew it, he should have seen it and fired  4 of them at xmas, SM GC LC BM all should have been told to fuk off, ruined us, but no he left them to it and its cost him over £100mmillion in players and wages and over £100 million in lost income this season alone.......HIS FAULT, HE'S THE GREAT BUSINESSMAN.............

 

FUKING NOT AS IT APPEARS  :rant:

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6 points man. Fuck that. I know people are saying it's 7 with the goal difference but if we won 2 more than Norwich (aye right :yao:), the gd is pretty much cancelled out.

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You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production.

 

The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement.

Yes, in our case it is Ashley to blame but the general point I made still stands - it costs a fortune to attend PL clubs regularly these days, at least if you follow a SUCCESSFUL one...if you live in an area of low wages and poor job opportunities you have little spare to spend on football STs - just look at some of the ST prices in the PL compared to ours and you will see that the only way we have been able to keep high attendances under Ashley is because he sells tickets BELOW the standard rate. If you look at the price of our STs back in the 90s, they were much higher percentage-wise than they are now in comparison to cost of living/wages ; we could charge more then because we had a better product that people were prepared to spend quite a bit of their disposable income to see - now we haven't and we have NO waiting list for STs...

Just pure financial common sense.

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You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production.

 

The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement.

Yes, in our case it is Ashley to blame but the general point I made still stands - it costs a fortune to attend PL clubs regularly these days, at least if you follow a SUCCESSFUL one...if you live in an area of low wages and poor job opportunities you have little spare to spend on football STs - just look at some of the ST prices in the PL compared to ours and you will see that the only way we have been able to keep high attendances under Ashley is because he sells tickets BELOW the standard rate. If you look at the price of our STs back in the 90s, they were much higher percentage-wise than they are now in comparison to cost of living/wages ; we could charge more then because we had a better product that people were prepared to spend quite a bit of their disposable income to see - now we haven't and we have NO waiting list for STs...

Just pure financial common sense.

 

I think this is bollocks tbh, we are a far richer club than Leicester yet they are set to win the league. The failure is down to Ashley trying to run the club on the cheap and hiring unqualified staff in key positions. Even he's realised the mistake and that's why we've gone for Rafa as a last gasp desperation measure. Too little too late. Lee fucking Charnley man. FFS.

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You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production.

 

The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement.

Yes, in our case it is Ashley to blame but the general point I made still stands - it costs a fortune to attend PL clubs regularly these days, at least if you follow a SUCCESSFUL one...if you live in an area of low wages and poor job opportunities you have little spare to spend on football STs - just look at some of the ST prices in the PL compared to ours and you will see that the only way we have been able to keep high attendances under Ashley is because he sells tickets BELOW the standard rate. If you look at the price of our STs back in the 90s, they were much higher percentage-wise than they are now in comparison to cost of living/wages ; we could charge more then because we had a better product that people were prepared to spend quite a bit of their disposable income to see - now we haven't and we have NO waiting list for STs...

Just pure financial common sense.

 

We we flying high under SJH and Keegan in the 90s then again under SBR in the early 00s stadiums were packed out.  It's got nowt to do with living in a poorer area.  Liverpool is a poor region of the country but always want to be successful.  Nufc as well as SAFC have both been grosly mismanaged.  Ashley cracks out cheap ticks as the product on show is fucking dismal.

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You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production.

 

The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement.

Yes, in our case it is Ashley to blame but the general point I made still stands - it costs a fortune to attend PL clubs regularly these days, at least if you follow a SUCCESSFUL one...if you live in an area of low wages and poor job opportunities you have little spare to spend on football STs - just look at some of the ST prices in the PL compared to ours and you will see that the only way we have been able to keep high attendances under Ashley is because he sells tickets BELOW the standard rate. If you look at the price of our STs back in the 90s, they were much higher percentage-wise than they are now in comparison to cost of living/wages ; we could charge more then because we had a better product that people were prepared to spend quite a bit of their disposable income to see - now we haven't and we have NO waiting list for STs...

Just pure financial common sense.

 

We we flying high under SJH and Keegan in the 90s then again under SBR in the early 00s stadiums were packed out.  It's got nowt to do with living in a poorer area.  Liverpool is a poor region of the country but always want to be successful.  Nufc as well as SAFC have both been grosly mismanaged.  Ashley cracks out cheap ticks as the product on show is fucking dismal.

 

We also had some of the most expensive tickets in the 90's.  People will pay expensive tickets if they know it's reinvested back into the club.

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Too many variables in that equation to link it that strongly with region. Plus there are about 80 clubs in London alone which just means that warps things. I was born between Birmingham, Coventry and Leicester; the latter two one club cities and ones ran complete differently to one another. having lived in Leicester for 3 years the main difference between the way they are run compared to the likes of villa and cov is the way the fans are treated. Their fans felt very valued - went to a lot of their away games in their last championship season.

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January transfer window, Saivet & Doumbia?

 

Combined wages must be 100k. Saivet was reported 6m fee. So plus the 1.5m on their wages so far,7.5m would have seen us a defender instead of wasting on players we don't intend to use? Don't get it. Doumbia another Ferayra type inclusion.

 

Why do we never ever address the problem aeas, even people who don't watch us wouldn't take them long to see in the transfer window we should have signed a LB CB & Striker, and not spent on Shelvey,Townsend,Saivet, Doumbia, f***ing cluless blind idiots.

 

Did they not honestly believe we were possibly going to be relegated back in January, there were a lot of people saying don't panic we will be fine, Robbie Savage said at the start of the season this would happen, can't stand him but spot on with predicted nufc safc will go down.

 

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It's over yesterday was our last chance, I think Southampton will turn us over next week and then the two home games in a few days will seal our fate

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