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2 wins in the next 2 games or we are down. Man City look pathetic since they put their flip flops on in January, they made West Brom look like Barcalona yesterday.

 

Even if Norwich beat the mackems, that'd put us 3 points behind them with them facing by far the toughest run-in. The mackems beating Norwich would be a disaster, as that would keep them up imo as they have the easiest set of fixtures.

 

So many twists and turns left, people love a drama and giving up but in reality we are still well in this. Stranger things have happened this season.

 

Although, I'll be firmly in the "we are down" club if we don't win next weekend.

 

The most important intangible hidden from sight among all of your projected/possible twists & turns, and number crunching, is that far too many of our players punched in their final timesheet quite some time ago.

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2 wins in the next 2 games or we are down. Man City look pathetic since they put their flip flops on in January, they made West Brom look like Barcalona yesterday.

 

Even if Norwich beat the mackems, that'd put us 3 points behind them with them facing by far the toughest run-in. The mackems beating Norwich would be a disaster, as that would keep them up imo as they have the easiest set of fixtures.

 

So many twists and turns left, people love a drama and giving up but in reality we are still well in this. Stranger things have happened this season.

 

Although, I'll be firmly in the "we are down" club if we don't win next weekend.

 

The most important intangible hidden from sight among all of your projected/possible twists & turns, and number crunching, is that far too many of our players punched in their final timesheet quite some time ago.

 

That part is out weighed by my blind faith and black and white tinted glasses.

 

Both of which will be removed when I watch Sissoko try to stumble through 6 Swansea players next week during a 3-0 defeat.

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2 wins in the next 2 games or we are down. Man City look pathetic since they put their flip flops on in January, they made West Brom look like Barcalona yesterday.

 

Even if Norwich beat the mackems, that'd put us 3 points behind them with them facing by far the toughest run-in. The mackems beating Norwich would be a disaster, as that would keep them up imo as they have the easiest set of fixtures.

 

So many twists and turns left, people love a drama and giving up but in reality we are still well in this. Stranger things have happened this season.

 

Although, I'll be firmly in the "we are down" club if we don't win next weekend.

 

The most important intangible hidden from sight among all of your projected/possible twists & turns, and number crunching, is that far too many of our players punched in their final timesheet quite some time ago.

 

yep- i think they actually want it to end with relegation, so we have no fucking chance tbh. the players are twats for that- but its a symptom of how the club has been run.

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It is incredible how absolutely dogshite both us and Sunderland have been this season, that we arent dead and buried already. For me it puts paid to this "need relegation experience to be a good manager" garbage. To stay up just above Newcastle and Sunderland who have been beyond dreadful does not mean that any player or manager can call themselves quality.

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It can be done, but we have been down and out for a very long time for me. This impending relegation isn't 12 months in the making but 5 or so years. You cannot keep surviving the way clubs like ourselves, Villa and the mackems are ran.

 

Rafa will still obviously believe we can stay up and he will do everything in his power to make it happen, but he has at his disposal some of the most spineless players to have represented us.

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Think the mackems will beat Norwich next week and stay up tbh, they're playing with real fight and have a few winnable games to come.

 

The match where we play Villa is going to be a real feast of football, can't wait for that one :lol:

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Think the mackems will beat Norwich next week and stay up tbh, they're playing with real fight and have a few winnable games to come.

 

The match where we play Villa is going to be a real feast of football, can't wait for that one :lol:

 

That's the only game I am confident we might get a win. If there's a team more spineless than us it could be them.

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Think the mackems will beat Norwich next week and stay up tbh, they're playing with real fight and have a few winnable games to come.

 

The match where we play Villa is going to be a real feast of football, can't wait for that one :lol:

 

Did you watch our match today? We're completely incapable of taking our chances.

 

If Newcastle and Sunderland aren't relegated this season I'll give up talking about football.

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Think the mackems will beat Norwich next week and stay up tbh, they're playing with real fight and have a few winnable games to come.

 

The match where we play Villa is going to be a real feast of football, can't wait for that one :lol:

 

Did you watch our match today? We're completely incapable of taking our chances.

 

If Newcastle and Sunderland aren't relegated this season I'll give up talking about football.

 

Don't know if you've watched much of us lately, but your lot are playing much, much better than we are, with the bonus of actually looking like they give a fuck.

 

Beat Norwich and I reckon you'll be fine - they've got a nightmare run in while I can see you getting points off Everton and Watford, maybe even Chelsea the way they're playing.

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Norwich took a handball to beat us. They're not very good.

 

We're lazy and inept and the only hope is that Rafa can work some magic. They're far from world beaters, but maybe Colo, Dummett, and Mbabu can listen to him and at least avoid giving the game away. I think Taylor put in the worst performance of any of our players this season.

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Norwich took a handball to beat us. They're not very good.

 

We're lazy and inept and the only hope is that Rafa can work some magic. They're far from world beaters, but maybe Colo, Dummett, and Mbabu can listen to him and at least avoid giving the game away. I think Taylor put in the worst performance of any of our players this season.

 

If they're available I would genuinely change the whole back 4 for the Swansea match:

 

Mbabu - Lascelles - Colo - Dummett

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In theory we should want a draw but given how shit we are I don't think it's even worth bothering about. Be funny watching some of the Wongaloids being forced to cheer the Mackems though.

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In theory we should want a draw but given how s*** we are I don't think it's even worth bothering about. Be funny watching some of the Wongaloids being forced to cheer the Mackems though.

 

A draw would be bad wouldn't it? We'd need 3 wins more than Norwich rather than 2 and a jammy draw in one of the games we'd not expect anything.

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Norwich's remaining games:

mackems (h), Arsenal (a), Man Utd (h), Watford (h), Everton (a)

 

mackem's remaining games:

Norwich (a), Arsenal (h), Stoke (a), Chelsea (h), Everton (h), Watford (a)

 

Realistically, will Norwich get any more than 6 points between now and the end of the season? I can't see it.

Will the mackems get any more than 10 points from those games? I doubt it.

 

Therefore 37 points would be enough to keep us up. On that basis, we need 12 from our remaining games. Swansea, Palace and Villa are all must wins with either Man City/Tottenham at home the other possible 3 points.

 

It's a massive, massive ask for us to survive from here but not impossible.

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I'm astonished to find I really don't give a fuck any more. How has it come to this? I'll watch the match, but it's all "ah, whatever" when we capitulate. Fucking Ashley, man. The fat fucker has broken my heart. What a monster, seriously. He's a fucking sociopath. To be expected from a successful businessman, I suppose, but still disappointing. :(

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I'm astonished to find I really don't give a fuck any more. How has it come to this? I'll watch the match, but it's all "ah, whatever" when we capitulate. Fucking Ashley, man. The fat fucker has broken my heart. What a monster, seriously. He's a fucking sociopath. To be expected from a successful businessman, I suppose, but still disappointing. :(

 

This isn't really fair. Of course you get a larger proporiton of dickheads in those positions than driving buses but some of the warmest people I know own/run very, very successful business. Agree with the rest.

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