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As long as a good striker, left back and right midfielder are signed before the transfer window deadline, we'll be fine. If not, anywhere between 12th-16th seems acceptable. Top 8 talk remains the exclusive preserve of crackheads and the mentally ill.

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Of course we'll be fine.  We have Jonas and Tiote who rarely score, Shola's best tally in PL is 9 goals.  Even if Ba gets 15, it's leaving a fair few goals required of Cabaye, Raylor and Obertan/Marveaux to match the 56 of last season.  Cant see a problem there.

 

The general consensus seems to be that even if we don't score as many we'll simply concede fewer goals. I'm unconvinced to say the least.

 

Thats fine, if our 5 defenders stay fit for the next 36 games and dont get suspended.

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Of course we'll be fine.  We have Jonas and Tiote who rarely score, Shola's best tally in PL is 9 goals.  Even if Ba gets 15, it's leaving a fair few goals required of Cabaye, Raylor and Obertan/Marveaux to match the 56 of last season.  Cant see a problem there.

 

The general consensus seems to be that even if we don't score as many we'll simply concede fewer goals. I'm unconvinced to say the least.

 

That's not my view. I'm hoping Marveaux, Ba and Ben Arfa will score goals, Gosling should get some and if we are struggling then Maybe Vukic and Sammy will get more chances to show what they can do. But we do need another striker in.

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Premier League goals last season:

 

Carroll 12

Nolan 11

Ameobi 6

Lovenkrands 6

Best 6

Barton 4

Gutierrez 3

S.Taylor 3

Coloccini 2

Ben Arfa 1

Tiote 1

OGs 1

 

Total 56

No longer at the club: 27 (48%)

Assuming Lovenkrands won't be playing: 33 (59%)

 

Goal assists by players no longer at the club:

Barton 9

Carroll 5

Enrique 4

Nolan 2

 

Total 20

Assuming Lovenkrands won't be playing: 25 (yes, he got 5)

 

Huge amount of pressure on the new players to replace those goals, especially considering the defence has to date been weakened never mind strengthened. Fact is the margins are so small at the level we're playing at, I worry that assuming we will simply keep more possession in games, conceding less in the process is rather wishful thinking. We've certainly not shown much of a penchant for controlling the game and having a monopoly on passing the ball so far this season (and pre-season). I guess the opponents didn't help that like.

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Oddly enough las season Cabaye got the same as Barton. 4 goals, 9 assists (previous season 15 goals, 11 assists).

 

Ba got 16 goals so that sorts out Carroll.

 

Hopefully between them Obertan, Marveaux, Bafra, and Gosling (plus breakthrough players like Abeid, Vucic and Sameobi) can come up the Nolan goals.

 

I think they might. :snod:

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One thing I did notice was that after Sammy and Vukic came on we created a hatful of chances, most of which were badly squandered. The style of play will make a difference and Pardew needs to get it right.

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Tbh I am not confident we would have 'replaced' Nolan's goals this season even if he stayed.

 

I reckon he would have got a fair amount but nothing like last seasons tally. :dontknow:

 

Aye, it's asking a lot to think Nolan & Lovenkrands alone were going to get 18 goals between them again.

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Tbh I am not confident we would have 'replaced' Nolan's goals this season even if he stayed.

 

I reckon he would have got a fair amount but nothing like last seasons tally. :dontknow:

 

Without Carroll, no chance.

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