Guest neesy111 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Appreciate the replies. I am just so bloody confused. From the outside, it seems that PL have not given out anything to make the people in the deal feel very positive about the outcome. At the end Amanda Staveley even commented that the PL made it very difficult (or words to that affect). That however contradicts what they were supposedly told earlier on on the quiet by the PL. It feels like there's contradictions at every turn so who knows what the real truth is. My faintest but best hope is that this is all some amazing plot to absolve the PL from any repercussions from the objectors, when it finally goes through. It's a mess and fans probably have even less clarity now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I’m fairly confident Edwards’ source is a PL one. He was first to break the news about the impasse, has been incredibly negative all the way through about it and is now claiming the deal is still off and nothing has happened. Tbf he could be right. PL clearly don't want this deal to happen, just now depends how badly PIF still want it to. At this stage it seems unclear whether this is still about them buying Newcastle, or whether it's Ashley looking for compensation. The only reason I can think PIF wouldn't have walked away is sheer pride. The Saudis won't like being told sorry, we don't want you here after all their investment in Britain, and it will be made even worse seeing what's gone on previously with Man City and Qatar. Just depends really if they are willing to make a fight of it or would rather just walk away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 They would get the £17m back now from what I understand. you keep saying this without explaining the basis for it, this is where we started Because the PL has rejected the deal. just say it's total and utter guesswork man, and not "from what i understand" as if you have some info that supports your conclusion From The Athletic: "The consortium has lost their deposit, believed to be around £17 million, which would have been refunded had the Premier League rejected the deal" https://theathletic.co.uk/1963663/2020/07/30/newcastle-united-takeover-withdraw-staveley-ashley-pif-premier-league/ #LeaveNeesyAlone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 This is all so confusing. I love how every little bit of new information, that in theory should provide some more clarity around the situation, always seems to do exactly the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 You always feel there is a catch when Ashley authorises large expenditure on players, think this time the catch is the extra leverage of how much more the club have had to spend on transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Can someone post a link to where the information came from about Southampton's failed takeover and subsequent appeal? Can't find anything doing a google search but loads of people on here have mentioned it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Again, this is how I see it. It’s done for us. Ashley will try to get some money out of it. There was nothing to suggest anyone would be appealing the decision. I can’t see how people are still hopeful. For whatever the reason, the premier league really didn’t want this to happen. I don't understand how he could get money from it though - isn't it like suing someone with no money and they just have to pay you 15p a week? As I implied in my post above, the PL is a body purported to raise and distribute funds for its members based on whatever money it has left once expenses are paid. What would happen if we won in court is that the PL would legally have to send £X to us once received from sponsors, tv companies etc. The Premier League clubs would then each receive less money and Ashley would get the whole lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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St1pe Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Is anyone else struggling to read all this stuff without a heavy wave of sheer disappointment taking over? Despite the absolute lies I told myself about being finished if the takeover didn’t happen I’d just about moved passed it. You start to look at the new season thinking well maybe if we stay up their might be another bid, I’ll try to be less emotionally involved this year blah blah. All the shite you tell yourself because you’re a mug. Now this has been brought up with a new level of rejection it’s absolutely gutting all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Anyone thinking the takeover will still go thru is mental. The PL finally saying no is the final blow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Is anyone else struggling to read all this stuff without a heavy wave of sheer disappointment taking over? Despite the absolute lies I told myself about being finished if the takeover didn’t happen I’d just about moved passed it. You start to look at the new season thinking well maybe if we stay up their might be another bid, I’ll try to be less emotionally involved this year blah blah. All the shite you tell yourself because you’re a mug. Now this has been brought up with a new level of rejection it’s absolutely gutting all over again. I was expecting that’s what we’d hear if we heard anything. I said on a few occasions there’s no way the PL would budge I genuinely feel sorry for the fans who convinced themselves it was still happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I doubt PIF have any interest in being back in tbh. This is probably just a PR exercise and/or Ashley being petty (perhaps justifiably in this instance) and fishing for compensation for what's gone down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I thought it was over anyway, so no real disappointment at this news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 See, another contradiction. I'm sure someone tweeted last night to say that Ashley gave notice to the consortium about the statement. FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Is anyone else struggling to read all this stuff without a heavy wave of sheer disappointment taking over? Despite the absolute lies I told myself about being finished if the takeover didn’t happen I’d just about moved passed it. You start to look at the new season thinking well maybe if we stay up their might be another bid, I’ll try to be less emotionally involved this year blah blah. All the shite you tell yourself because you’re a mug. Now this has been brought up with a new level of rejection it’s absolutely gutting all over again. I am feeling the opposite actually. Think it's just having a decision now instead of the hopeless limbo we were in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 See, another contradiction. I'm sure someone tweeted last night to say that Ashley gave notice to the consortium about the statement. FFS. Depends who the source is - there’s a massive difference between the Club/consortium and PL/BEIN sides. It’s going to get messy unless it’s resolved one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 See, another contradiction. I'm sure someone tweeted last night to say that Ashley gave notice to the consortium about the statement. FFS. Depends who the source is - there’s a massive difference between the Club/consortium and PL/BEIN sides. It’s going to get messy unless it’s resolved one way or another. Found the tweet. Haven't a clue who Four Name Frank is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facundo Ferreyra Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Isn't this the radio presenter who BZG gave statements to? Wouldn't trust a word he says, even though he's probably right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Where’s Golfmag anyway who seemed of the view the PL were all for accepting it before the withdrawal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 If PIF weren’t still involved why would the clubs statement be based around them having provided evidence that PIF are ‘fit and proper’? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Can we stop quoting the Torygraph nonce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Isn't this the radio presenter who BZG gave statements to? Wouldn't trust a word he says, even though he's probably right. Yep, that's the guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Is anyone else struggling to read all this stuff without a heavy wave of sheer disappointment taking over? Despite the absolute lies I told myself about being finished if the takeover didn’t happen I’d just about moved passed it. You start to look at the new season thinking well maybe if we stay up their might be another bid, I’ll try to be less emotionally involved this year blah blah. All the s**** you tell yourself because you’re a mug. Now this has been brought up with a new level of rejection it’s absolutely gutting all over again. I was expecting that’s what we’d hear if we heard anything. I said on a few occasions there’s no way the PL would budge I genuinely feel sorry for the fans who convinced themselves it was still happening It sort of was though wasn’t it? Privately at least, the bid was re-submitted, pif was involved again. Now unless they’re prepared to go to arbitration that would take an incredible amount of time (no information suggests this is likely) it’s flat dead on its arse. It’s absolutely gutting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Is anyone else struggling to read all this stuff without a heavy wave of sheer disappointment taking over? Despite the absolute lies I told myself about being finished if the takeover didn’t happen I’d just about moved passed it. You start to look at the new season thinking well maybe if we stay up their might be another bid, I’ll try to be less emotionally involved this year blah blah. All the s**** you tell yourself because you’re a mug. Now this has been brought up with a new level of rejection it’s absolutely gutting all over again. I was expecting that’s what we’d hear if we heard anything. I said on a few occasions there’s no way the PL would budge I genuinely feel sorry for the fans who convinced themselves it was still happening It sort of was though wasn’t it? Privately at least, the bid was re-submitted, pif was involved again. Now unless they’re prepared to go to arbitration that would take an incredible amount of time (no information suggests this is likely) it’s flat dead on its arse. It’s absolutely gutting. They can appeal, which is heard as soon as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Is anyone else struggling to read all this stuff without a heavy wave of sheer disappointment taking over? Despite the absolute lies I told myself about being finished if the takeover didn’t happen I’d just about moved passed it. You start to look at the new season thinking well maybe if we stay up their might be another bid, I’ll try to be less emotionally involved this year blah blah. All the s**** you tell yourself because you’re a mug. Now this has been brought up with a new level of rejection it’s absolutely gutting all over again. I was expecting that’s what we’d hear if we heard anything. I said on a few occasions there’s no way the PL would budge I genuinely feel sorry for the fans who convinced themselves it was still happening It sort of was though wasn’t it? Privately at least, the bid was re-submitted, pif was involved again. Now unless they’re prepared to go to arbitration that would take an incredible amount of time (no information suggests this is likely) it’s flat dead on its arse. It’s absolutely gutting. They can appeal, which is heard as soon as possible. There is nothing to suggest they’re going to though? Unless I’m missing something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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