Guest Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, gbandit said: Pull the ladder up, boys Yep, can’t create a Super League but this will ensure the CL is as good as being a closed shop as you can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 When is regulation too much? Because on the face of it, this feels like too much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, Ikon said: Is this a joke? Infrastructure too.. I can see a legal challenge coming in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Is this a joke? Infrastructure too.. Not just infrastructure but woman’s, youth and community football all no longer exempt. Shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 If I’m understanding this correctly, the new changes actively disincentivizes investment into the women’s’ game and youth development. It’s absolutely outrageous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Not just infrastructure but woman’s, youth and community football all no longer exempt. Shambles. Yeah, this. Just a cartel at this point. Kills any hope of a non-established team becoming a big player. Edited June 27, 2022 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Good for the top clubs that already have state of the art setups. If it was difficult for other clubs to compete with the big clubs for players before, then it will be even more difficult now. Wheelie bins it is for the rest of the future then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just want a shiny new football ground paid for by Aramco et al fuck off UEFA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Let other companies pay for everything and we just rent it for 1 pound/month. Like training facilities and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Good thread on the new football financials coming into play. Very interesting. Potentially good news for us I think, especially the part where a lot of clubs will have to squeeze their wages down to 70% of revenue and further allowances for owner covered equity investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 How is it even possible to come up with something like this just like that. Shoouldnt it be more like From year 2025 for example or whatever. Feels all of a sudden? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Yep, can’t create a Super League but this will ensure the CL is as good as being a closed shop as you can get. this. it's an absolute joke. what is funny, is that when we finally break into the top 4 through fantastic signings (bruno, 81m back 5, Eddie Howe, DOF, CEO etc) we will get the "how could they not with the money they have?!" Just like the media couldn't fail to mention we spent 80M in January to jump from 19th to mid-table.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Football and the way it's controlled is a fucking excellent way to learn about how all industries go when there are a handful of companies who hold all the power and are left to more or less self-regulate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) If they’re including infrastructure, this is going to shaft us going forward? Talk about constantly moving the goalposts. It’s all fine for those clubs who’ve already invested heavily in new training grounds of course. I can only assume Everton will be in dire straits, with the huge cost of their new stadium. Edited June 27, 2022 by NUFC_Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said: If they’re including infrastructure, this is going to shaft us going forward? Talk about constantly moving the goalposts. It’s all fine for those clubs who’ve already invested heavily in new training grounds of course. I can only assume Everton will be in dire straits, with the huge cost of their new stadium. Hopefully they go down this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Something needs to be done about runaway fees for players and see if any of this does help, but of course it is watered down and engineered to make sure the likes of us can't spend. It's rather telling that in all reforms of clubs to make sure they don't go under from overspending, not one proposal ever has something about requiring clubs to have some responsibility to their fans, such a spot on the board for fan representation at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Including infrastructure investment within FFP is absolutely obscene. I fail to see how that can be acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 We will be fine, it will slow things down no doubt but I imagine there is a lot of low hanging fruit to get added revenue into the club to balance the books, years of neglect under ashley means it's not like our earnings potential had previously been maxed out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Not just infrastructure but woman’s, youth and community football all no longer exempt. Shambles. ‘However, it is worth noting that certain expenses that could previously be excluded from the FFP calculation can no longer be deducted. This covers money spent on youth football, infrastructure, community and women’s football.’ Yep, this is a bit of a blow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Surely a huge legal challenge is on the cards. They're basically stopping club owners investing in their business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 FWIW, I don't think this will stop Newcastle at all, because the double edge sword of the whole money and power thing is that Newcastle have the most money and will be able to weild the most power as a result. Then that monopoly at the top will essentially start whinging about how it was only okay to act in this way when they were doing it and now that it's being done to them it's unfair. With most of these things, they've created their own eventual downfall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Need to start fiddling the books already. Better find a good accountant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 The sustainable way for any club to progress is to invest in facilities, infra and youth development. It's how you grow a club to make more money, establish a brand and become self sufficient in terms of player development. There should no no regulations of any of that because it's all good for football and the game. If a club overspends on those things or moves too quickly they will feel the pinch financially and it limits their competitiveness in the transfer market. It basically self regulates. Really feels like pulling up the draw bridge and basically saying nobody is allowed to progress at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just means that when we do become successful, it’ll be an even better feeling because we’ll know we had to do it the hard way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Need to start working on a legal challenge to this or start seriously fiddling the books in terms of infrastructure spending. This is a massive killer for our owner's long term project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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