PIF and RB Sports & Media

[Stifler]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

One thing the other golf states have seemingly accepted is that the power base in football is in Europe and therefore they must control it vis a proxy PSG Man City group for example. 
 

PSG can be glamorous.  And city group can have dominant teams across the word.  PIF are focussing on their own league and I guess they can as they have a proper population.  But it’s not going to work.  
 

Which all might end up in our favour. If they were more focussed on a European side at the heart of their football thing they would’ve gone for Spurs imo

They were interested in Spurs. Levy/ENIC kept asking for more money. I also think that at the time the secret talks over the ESL were happening and Levy wanted to wait until that started in order to get more money for them.

Staveley came to them and put the idea of buying us to them instead.

[Fak]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

We aren’t the ones with Ronaldo and Kante. 

 

Could we afford those players with PSR restrictions on players?

[JT24]

The announcement for the Riyadh Air Performance Centre is going to slap. 

[Stifler]

4 minutes ago, JT24 said:

The announcement for the Riyadh Air Performance Centre is going to slap. 

I honestly don’t think we’ll get renders to be honest.

We’ll end up with a report that says this is what is achievable, this is what it could offer us, this is what fans/the FAB think, and at most we’ll get what Birmingham City did through the week and give you an outline of a stadium on the proposed site, with the ‘final stadium design to be determined’ marker.

 

People need to be prepared for this.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 17:52 by Stifler

[The College Dropout]

10 minutes ago, Stifler said:

They were interested in Spurs. Levy/ENIC kept asking for more money. I also think that at the time the secret talks over the ESL were happening and Levy wanted to wait until that started in order to get more money for them.

Staveley came to them and put the idea of buying us to them instead.

I think if a European team was their primary focus in football they would’ve made Spurs happen.  Spurs are uniquely positioned to become a powerhouse. Already a major player but with no history of winning the big titles - best balance of Saudi’ing up a club and ease of making them a dominant league winning and CL winning side. London as well makes it easier for fancy names. Stadium in the works etc. just super charge them.  
 

 

We require building from the ground up, massive opposition from the rest of the league and UEFA.  
 

I think they want a European team at the top table and winning. But the crowning achievement isn’t Newcastle winning the CL  and then our 2 star players going head to head in the World Cup Final like it is/was for Qatar. Their ultimate goal atm seemingly involves the World Cup, maybe CWC and the Saudi League.  

9 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

Could we afford those players with PSR restrictions on players?

No but they knew they had opps and FFP in place when they bought us.  Nothing they’ve done in football suggests their number one priority in the sport is to make us a dominant team. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 17:58 by The College Dropout

[JT24]

5 minutes ago, Stifler said:

I honestly don’t think we’ll get renders to be honest.

We’ll end up with a report that says this is what is achievable, this is what it could offer us, this is what fans/the FAB think, and at most we’ll get what Birmingham City did through the week and give you an outline of a stadium on the proposed site, with the ‘final stadium design to be determined’ marker.

 

People need to be prepared for this.

 

 

 

I’m talking about the training ground but sure, let’s see. 

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, JT24 said:

I’m talking about the training ground but sure, let’s see. 

Fair enough.

Just narrowing down the location would be a plus at the moment.

[Jewel]

5 hours ago, TRon said:

 

 

It was. But I'm not really sure that should include allowing other clubs to ride roughshod over PSR rules while we just sit on our hands. 

 

Chelsea have set a clear precedent, I am guessing Villa will now follow. By now surely the gloves should be off. 

If I was our owners I'd go ahead and sack off PSR the way others like Chelsea have done. What could the authorities do about it? None of it would hold up in a court of law.

[TRon]

3 hours ago, et tu brute said:

One player gets a pay rise, then the majority will be straight in asking also. 

 

 

 

 

 

They have to actually be good enough to justify it. I'd argue we only have half a dozen at best. If that. 

[TRon]

26 minutes ago, Jewel said:

If I was our owners I'd go ahead and sack off PSR the way others like Chelsea have done. What could the authorities do about it? None of it would hold up in a court of law.

 

Same here. But hopefully there is something in what @et tu brute is saying. Maybe City being on the brink of bringing down the PL rulings is going to make PSR redundant anyway. I just hope we don't lose any potential signings if we are waiting on it. 

[LFEE]

DAZN owned by PIF?

 

 

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, LFEE said:

DAZN owned by PIF?

 

 

PIF a minority investors. 

[LFEE]

12 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

PIF a minority investors. 

Who was it who bailed DAZN out? As they were in massive debt.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Who was it who bailed DAZN out? As they were in massive debt.

Pif invested a billion dollars iirc. 

[The College Dropout]

PIF invested 1bn for a single digit equity of DAZN.  Weeks later DAZN get the CWC for 1bn it seems. 
 

Wish PIF cared about uefa half as much. 

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by The College Dropout

[Ben]

1 hour ago, LFEE said:

DAZN owned by PIF?

 

 

 

Hopefully they wont send the TV feed to the 1980's to be processed and then sent back to our screens, the quality last night was very poor, I imagine if I upgrade to Premium it will improve

[Unbelievable]

I’m completely at a loss with some of the posts on the last two pages. PIF is one of the largest investment funds in the world, acting for the benefit of one of one of the top 10 most influential counties in the world. They bought Newcastle United as an investment opportunity for over 300m and have since easily doubled that by investments in the playing squad and facilities. There is no sign that they won’t spend anything below what the rules allow and there should soon be an announcement about a billion pound stadium investment. They saved us from almost certain relegation under the fat mess, got us in the CL 2/3 years and won us out first trophy in a lifetime. Yet here we are: posters lamenting that we are not a priority. It’s laughable really. Would you rather have still had Ashley in charge, or PIF spent 10bn to buy us the league in the first year? Surely not!? PIF are being very ambitious owners making all the right calls so far and developing our beloved club to be a force to be reckoned with long after they sell up. I couldn’t be more happy about how they’ve handled things with NUFC.

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Unbelievable said:

I’m completely at a loss with some of the posts on the last two pages. PIF is one of the largest investment funds in the world, acting for the benefit of one of one of the top 10 most influential counties in the world. They bought Newcastle United as an investment opportunity for over 300m and have since easily doubled that by investments in the playing squad and facilities. There is no sign that they won’t spend anything below what the rules allow and there should soon be an announcement about a billion pound stadium investment. They saved us from almost certain relegation under the fat mess, got us in the CL 2/3 years and won us out first trophy in a lifetime. Yet here we are: posters lamenting that we are not a priority. It’s laughable really. Would you rather have still had Ashley in charge, or PIF spent 10bn to buy us the league in the first year? Surely not!? PIF are being very ambitious owners making all the right calls so far and developing our beloved club to be a force to be reckoned with long after they sell up. I couldn’t be more happy about how they’ve handled things with NUFC.

 

Eh !! At the time of the takeover the media said we would have Messi and Ronaldo playing in a rocket powered super stadium that carried out stonings and beheadings once a month.

[Unbelievable]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

 

Eh !! At the time of the takeover the media said we would have Messi and Ronaldo playing in a rocket powered super stadium that carried out stonings and beheadings once a month.

What’s your point exactly? Would you have preferred that alternative reality?

[christ]

5 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

What’s your point exactly? Would you have preferred that alternative reality?

Depends if the super stadium was more than 65k.

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, Unbelievable said:

I’m completely at a loss with some of the posts on the last two pages. PIF is one of the largest investment funds in the world, acting for the benefit of one of one of the top 10 most influential counties in the world. They bought Newcastle United as an investment opportunity for over 300m and have since easily doubled that by investments in the playing squad and facilities. There is no sign that they won’t spend anything below what the rules allow and there should soon be an announcement about a billion pound stadium investment. They saved us from almost certain relegation under the fat mess, got us in the CL 2/3 years and won us out first trophy in a lifetime. Yet here we are: posters lamenting that we are not a priority. It’s laughable really. Would you rather have still had Ashley in charge, or PIF spent 10bn to buy us the league in the first year? Surely not!? PIF are being very ambitious owners making all the right calls so far and developing our beloved club to be a force to be reckoned with long after they sell up. I couldn’t be more happy about how they’ve handled things with NUFC.

We’ve heard. 

[Yorkie]

Suggesting NUFC isn't PIF's top priority doesn't mean I'm not happy with how they're running the club; it's just an observation. I don't think it's mad to suggest they're not wearing black and white goggles when they're bankrolling a £1billion tournament that we're not competing in. I'm quite comfortable with it, tbh. Rightly or wrongly, Saudi money being everywhere makes their involvement with us easier to stomach.

 

Do wonder how things would've played out had they not hit the jackpot with Eddie Howe, but that's a concern for another day really.

[JT24]

Just wish their decision making processes were a little bit quicker. Things seem to drag on...

[LFEE]

8 minutes ago, JT24 said:

Just wish their decision making processes were a little bit quicker. Things seem to drag on...

What particularly would you like them to decide quicker?

[Kanj]

If Yasir is flying over for matches, key meetings etc. then it absolutely is a major priority. Solis being Head of Direct European Investments and on our board is another key indicator that its a massive priority. They simply cannot throw money at the playing squad because of rules that came in post takeover that resulted in whatever original plan they underwrote having taken a massive hit. They could have changed their mind and cut us loose or pushed us down the pecking order but instead they've basically max'd out the playing squad investment as often as possible within the rules and are close to announcing a billion+ investment that the city of Newcastle likely never gets without them. 

 

I'm all for holding the owners to task but there is literally nothing else they can do.