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[Weezertron]

6 minutes ago, LFEE said:

What particularly would you like them to decide quicker?

 

Not my question to answer and I don't really care about this topic,  but I'd guess the training ground stuff and stadium decisions/announcement seem to move a slow pace.

 

 

[et tu brute]

6 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

 

Not my question to answer and I don't really care about this topic,  but I'd guess the training ground stuff and stadium decisions/announcement seem to move a slow pace.

 

 

Because they have to get everything agreed with local and national authorities first. 

[Stifler]

3 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

Not my question to answer and I don't really care about this topic,  but I'd guess the training ground stuff and stadium decisions/announcement seem to move a slow pace.

I do think the training ground one is dragging on a bit, but I have also always been under the impression that they one of the government buildings in either Benton or along Benton after they move into the city centre.

 

The stadium one is frustrating in the sense that it keeps getting promised that we’ll hear something and we don’t. However what would you rather have, then rush releasing what they are doing and getting it wrong, or wait a little longer and get the stadium perfect?

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Stifler said:

I do think the training ground one is dragging on a bit, but I have also always been under the impression that they one of the government buildings in either Benton or along Benton after they move into the city centre.

 

The stadium one is frustrating in the sense that it keeps getting promised that we’ll hear something and we don’t. However what would you rather have, then rush releasing what they are doing and getting it wrong, or wait a little longer and get the stadium perfect?

Promised mainly by the local reporters though

[LFEE]

5 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Because they have to get everything agreed with local and national authorities first. 

Exactly this. No point rushing to promise something you can’t deliver.

[Yorkie]

16 minutes ago, Kanj said:

If Yasir is flying over for matches, key meetings etc. then it absolutely is a major priority. Solis being Head of Direct European Investments and on our board is another key indicator that its a massive priority. They simply cannot throw money at the playing squad because of rules that came in post takeover that resulted in whatever original plan they underwrote having taken a massive hit. They could have changed their mind and cut us loose or pushed us down the pecking order but instead they've basically max'd out the playing squad investment as often as possible within the rules and are close to announcing a billion+ investment that the city of Newcastle likely never gets without them. 

 

I'm all for holding the owners to task but there is literally nothing else they can do.

 

They could not give tens of millions to our competitors...

 

Like I say, I'm relaxed about it. And I don't think we're necessarily a low priority. Just not the top one. To me it appears we're just one part of an overreaching vision to invest heavily in football at a global scale.

[Weezertron]

15 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Because they have to get everything agreed with local and national authorities first. 

Yep, and both can be true. It takes time, but people can still be frustrated with it. 

 

 

[Unbelievable]

9 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

They could not give tens of millions to our competitors...

 

Like I say, I'm relaxed about it. And I don't think we're necessarily a low priority. Just not the top one. To me it appears we're just one part of an overreaching vision to invest heavily in football at a global scale.

You do realise that WCC prize money was agreed and published long before PIF got involved yeah? So those clubs were getting their money regardless, and it’s not like them investing elsewhere will prevent them from spending what they can on us too. They invest that money expecting to make a return on it, not to strengthen our rivals. If anything it shows how massive their commitment to football, and consequently us, is.

I think some people’s gripe with them is they invest in other things than us, when a) what they can invest in us is capped by anti-competitive rules and b) they are a massive investment fund, investing is what they do. Like it or lump it, we are part of a bigger portfolio. Unlike under Ashley though there is no sign whatsoever that we are being leached for their benefit. Quite the contrary I’d say. As pointed out, the presence at games of their chairman shows they are not only financially invested, but emotionally as well.

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Unbelievable

[SUPERTOON]

9 hours ago, LFEE said:

What particularly would you like them to decide quicker?

New CEO.

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

43 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

New CEO.

 

This has taken far too long tbh. Eales announced he was stepping down in September

[LFEE]

1 hour ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

 

This has taken far too long tbh. Eales announced he was stepping down in September

And we went on to win a trophy and qualify for the UCL. Eales presence in the transition period has hardly had a detrimental effect. 
 

The club hired two people at least off top of my head to grease the wheels of the stadium project and guessing training ground.

 

Would imagine when Eales leaves (next month?) someone will be in place.

[Yorkie]

5 hours ago, Unbelievable said:

You do realise that WCC prize money was agreed and published long before PIF got involved yeah? So those clubs were getting their money regardless, and it’s not like them investing elsewhere will prevent them from spending what they can on us too. They invest that money expecting to make a return on it, not to strengthen our rivals. If anything it shows how massive their commitment to football, and consequently us, is.

I think some people’s gripe with them is they invest in other things than us, when a) what they can invest in us is capped by anti-competitive rules and b) they are a massive investment fund, investing is what they do. Like it or lump it, we are part of a bigger portfolio. Unlike under Ashley though there is no sign whatsoever that we are being leached for their benefit. Quite the contrary I’d say. As pointed out, the presence at games of their chairman shows they are not only financially invested, but emotionally as well.

 

I'm not sure we're even disagreeing here. 

[Dr Venkman]

4 hours ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

 

This has taken far too long tbh. Eales announced he was stepping down in September

Taken far too long by what metric?

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

32 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Taken far too long by what metric?

Time?

[Dr.Spaceman]

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Just now, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

Time?

[The College Dropout]

6 hours ago, Unbelievable said:

You do realise that WCC prize money was agreed and published long before PIF got involved yeah?

 

 

 

Btw this isn't true.

 

PIF are clearly bankrolling FIFA and the CWC.

 

Where did FIFA get the $1Bn pot from? A short time later, we learn DAZN spend $1Bn on the rights. Why the hell would DAZN spend that money for the CWC? To then stream it for free?? That would get DAZN 3 seasons of CL in England and actually generate some revenue. Then we learn PIF paid $1Bn for a single figure equity in DAZN. That would make DAZN worth at least $10bn and it very obviously is not.

 

Then of course Saudi win an uncontested World Cup bid.

 

PIF are in bed with FIFA and bankrolling their 2 major events.

 

Very fairly - their footballing priority is Saudi Arabia. The country and the league. So they are in bed with FIFA, not UEFA. They are bankrolling FIFA and their league and they don't really care if that also means bankrolling our rivals. That's a small price to pay for thier main objective.

[Famous Nick]

more worry if they pay inflated prices for signing players from or rivals who are happy to let those go. crazy that they paid big sums for Henderson, Fabinho when they wanted to offload them and wouldnt have found buyers for them at those prices and Saudi league came for a rescue.

at the very least they should put in a bid for Targett or Dubravka for 25m.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Btw this isn't true.

 

PIF are clearly bankrolling FIFA and the CWC.

 

Where did FIFA get the $1Bn pot from? A short time later, we learn DAZN spend $1Bn on the rights. Why the hell would DAZN spend that money for the CWC? To then stream it for free?? That would get DAZN 3 seasons of CL in England and actually generate some revenue. Then we learn PIF paid $1Bn for a single figure equity in DAZN. That would make DAZN worth at least $10bn and it very obviously is not.

 

Then of course Saudi win an uncontested World Cup bid.

 

PIF are in bed with FIFA and bankrolling their 2 major events.

 

Very fairly - their footballing priority is Saudi Arabia. The country and the league. So they are in bed with FIFA, not UEFA. They are bankrolling FIFA and their league and they don't really care if that also means bankrolling our rivals. That's a small price to pay for thier main objective.

 

 

I think they would happily bankroll us as well given the leeway to do so. The Saudi Pro League is still fairly low profile, that was the whole point of buying a PL club. They are sinking plenty of money in where they are allowed, it is UEFA and the PL putting the blocks up for them investing more heavily in the NUFC playing squad. 

[andycap]

Surely eales wouldn't of thought he'd still be here doing his job after his diagnosis. 

I thought they would've acted swiftly in replacing him once they knew. 

[Unbelievable]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Btw this isn't true.

 

PIF are clearly bankrolling FIFA and the CWC.

 

Where did FIFA get the $1Bn pot from? A short time later, we learn DAZN spend $1Bn on the rights. Why the hell would DAZN spend that money for the CWC? To then stream it for free?? That would get DAZN 3 seasons of CL in England and actually generate some revenue. Then we learn PIF paid $1Bn for a single figure equity in DAZN. That would make DAZN worth at least $10bn and it very obviously is not.

 

Then of course Saudi win an uncontested World Cup bid.

 

PIF are in bed with FIFA and bankrolling their 2 major events.

 

Very fairly - their footballing priority is Saudi Arabia. The country and the league. So they are in bed with FIFA, not UEFA. They are bankrolling FIFA and their league and they don't really care if that also means bankrolling our rivals. That's a small price to pay for thier main objective.

 

What isn't true? Here's an article for you from April 2024, 14 months ago, detailing the CWC prize money: https://www.transfermarkt.com/2025-fifa-club-world-cup-qualified-clubs-set-to-receive-euro-50m-prize-money/view/news/436329

 

PIF signed up for a partnership with FIFA less than 2 weeks ago.

 

Don't let facts get into the way of a good rant though

[Dr Venkman]

4 hours ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

Time?

 

 But why?

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Unbelievable said:

 

What isn't true? Here's an article for you from April 2024, 14 months ago, detailing the CWC prize money: https://www.transfermarkt.com/2025-fifa-club-world-cup-qualified-clubs-set-to-receive-euro-50m-prize-money/view/news/436329

 

PIF signed up for a partnership with FIFA less than 2 weeks ago.

 

Don't let facts get into the way of a good rant though

This is based on reports - an incorrect reports at that ‘According to various reports, the prize money for next year’s competition is set at €2.5 billion’. ’.&nb
 

In April 2024 there were no sponsors or tv networks signed. No confirmed prize pot or close to accurate numbers. 

December 2024 - FIFA announce Saudi Arabia will host World Cup 2034

December 2024 - fifa annouce DAZN as global viewing rights holders for $1Bn

February 2025 - A PIF owned subsidiary confirms they invested $1bn in DAZN to own single digit equity.  

March 2025 - Verified reports of a $1Bn prize pot then confirmed by FIFA 

 

 

‘It is partly based on the $1bn exclusive global TV deal agreed with sports streaming service DAZN in December.’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgl0zrxl8z9o

https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/club-world-cup/usa-2025/articles/record-prize-money-solidarity

 

It’s in plain sight mate. 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by The College Dropout

[Unbelievable]

37 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This is based on reports - an incorrect reports at that ‘According to various reports, the prize money for next year’s competition is set at €2.5 billion’. ’.&nb
 

In April 2024 there were no sponsors or tv networks signed. No confirmed prize pot or close to accurate numbers. 

December 2024 - FIFA announce Saudi Arabia will host World Cup 2034

December 2024 - fifa annouce DAZN as global viewing rights holders for $1Bn

February 2025 - A PIF owned subsidiary confirms they invested $1bn in DAZN to own single digit equity.  

March 2025 - Verified reports of a $1Bn prize pot then confirmed by FIFA 

 

 

‘It is partly based on the $1bn exclusive global TV deal agreed with sports streaming service DAZN in December.’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgl0zrxl8z9o

https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/club-world-cup/usa-2025/articles/record-prize-money-solidarity

 

It’s in plain sight mate. 

 

 

 

Wrong again. Apple were in negotiations for a 1bn USD broadcasting deal at the time that was written, and after that fell through another tender was opened, which DAZN, a British streaming network, won in December 2024 for roughly the same amount of investment. PIF invested in that company in February 2025 and as said, the long term partnership with Fifa was announced two weeks ago. The timeline completely contradicts your theory: both the prize money and the broadcasting deal were wrapped up before PIF even got involved. And in any case, as I keep pointing out: PIF is an investment fund. They invest in companies, it’s what they do. Why are you so concerned with their other investments when it’s blatantly obvious they’re doing a brilliant job as our owners so far?

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Unbelievable

[The College Dropout]

You think the money and close proximity is happenstance? It’s clear as day. 

 

I’m not concerned. I said PIF’s primary football focus is not Newcastle United.  It is their own league and the World Cup. So their funding FIFAs vanity projects and funding their own league with big names - even if they are from our rivals. 
 

PIF has the power to corrupt UEFA and circumvent rules. But they don’t want too. Thats fine. If a European football club was so crucial to their football efforts I think they just do the deal to buy Spurs.