Nucasol Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 21 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I don’t expect it to change sadly, I believe Palace are having internal issues so a lot of politicking going on where they are concerned. Textor will oust Parish soon enough. Now they have that land package for stadium works and need to expand anything that threatens that, like the proposed inclusion of infrastructure costs in FFP calcs, means they switch sides of the table to being anti FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Textor will oust Parish soon enough. Now they have that land package for stadium works and need to expand anything that threatens that, like the proposed inclusion of infrastructure costs in FFP calcs, means they switch sides of the table to being anti FFP. I can see that element being watered down in the future, that is actually too much even for those idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 hours ago, Nobody said: How fucking sad is that though? We were ok par with Spurs before Ashley, now we can at best get up to 60% of their income That’s just a forum members opinion though. We don't know what’s in the pipeline down the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Remember, these aren't the rules forever. We'll either figure out how to circumnavigate these rules or we'll see them change again. I highly doubt if they change they're going to be even more restrictive, given how close Villa & Chelsea are reported to be to joining Everton & Forest. I could see a breakaway UK only Super League at some point if nothing changes from here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Why would they be fucked on FFP? The big 6 are smart enough to know (FFP is the creation of the big clubs btw) that FFP is fantastic for them. Infact it’s fantastic anyone who isn’t ambitious and is happy to exist, it limits competition throughout the whole pyramid so if your backwards looking either by choice or circumstance FFP is great, your costs are limited and your competition can’t just outspend you so your market position is protected. when thinking about these financial rules throw away the “fan” hat and put on the business one. Everything then becomes crystal clear. I was on about the non-top 6 clubs. Out of them you have us, and Villa who want to kick on. You have Everton, and Forest currently under investigation and facing a points deduction for spending money to compete at their respective levels. You also have Leicester coming up who also face sanctions. You then have Palace who can’t build their new stand that they have been trying to buy land for over the past 5 years or more, and have only just bought. There is also a growing discontent with Masters over the TV deals not being as high as they would expect, as well as losing iconic sponsors such as Nike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 49 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I can see that element being watered down in the future, that is actually too much even for those idiots. Agreed, quite Man Utd would go for it when they’ll have to sink a billion to sort the shit pile that is Old Trafford is peculiar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 12 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Remember, these aren't the rules forever. We'll either figure out how to circumnavigate these rules or we'll see them change again. I highly doubt if they change they're going to be even more restrictive, given how close Villa & Chelsea are reported to be to joining Everton & Forest. I could see a breakaway UK only Super League at some point if nothing changes from here. This isn't being driven by the PL board, it's being driven by the 'big 6' (minus Man City) with the other clubs tagging along. The PL board have accidentally been advising against some of the changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: The adidas deal is a five-year one. Fan zones and training ground sponsorships won’t put a dent in the quarter of a billion difference between us and Spurs. I can guarantee that next season’s accounts, like this season’s when they’re produced, will not show anything close to the growth in 22/23. I’m not convinced that this is a clever game - the club needs a big state-of-the-art new stadium or I’d say we’re close to our ceiling at the moment, without something extraordinary being achieved on the pitch. I've already stated what I think is happening with the new stadium and that will obviously increase revenue massively. We're not going to get revenue levels of spurs within a couple of years, but then again I didn't mention them in my reply. I stated that revenue will continue to increase and that will happen. As for the owners playing cute, I disagree with you and I think this is the case even with regards to a new stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, et tu brute said: I've already stated what I think is happening with the new stadium and that will obviously increase revenue massively. We're not going to get revenue levels of spurs within a couple of years, but then again I didn't mention them in my reply. I stated that revenue will continue to increase and that will happen. As for the owners playing cute, I disagree with you and I think this is the case even with regards to a new stadium. I know you didn’t mention Spurs; it is more that Spurs have been seen as the lesser of the Sky Six - so overtaking them would be the first battle to win. I don’t KSA ever does ‘cute’. It does overconfident statements and financial waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 37 minutes ago, Stifler said: I was on about the non-top 6 clubs. Out of them you have us, and Villa who want to kick on. You have Everton, and Forest currently under investigation and facing a points deduction for spending money to compete at their respective levels. You also have Leicester coming up who also face sanctions. You then have Palace who can’t build their new stand that they have been trying to buy land for over the past 5 years or more, and have only just bought. There is also a growing discontent with Masters over the TV deals not being as high as they would expect, as well as losing iconic sponsors such as Nike. 19 of the 20 clubs just supported the changes being put through. They’re not exactly queueing up to knock it on the head - probably because it suits most of them down to the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: Of course it is, if you look at the owners of the clubs they are the most ardent capitalist in the world, but they adopt socialist structures such as parachute payments and solidarity payments it’s all rather bizarre but at its core as you mention is absolute self interest. Again, what FFP is when you strip it back is cost control and the more you control your cost the more profit you make, sadly for the owners they are also extremely egotistical so these rules create a brake and help them all control costs. Ultimately they all want to make money. All capitalists are socialists when it comes to bail-outs … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I know you didn’t mention Spurs; it is more that Spurs have been seen as the lesser of the Sky Six - so overtaking them would be the first battle to win. I don’t KSA ever does ‘cute’. It does overconfident statements and financial waste. Time will tell and I'll be the first to post if you're ultimately right. It might take another year, but I think we will get a clearer guide on the path the club are following (especially in regards to the stadium). I also think it's only a matter of time before a legal challenge is mounted. As I've said numerous times only time will tell who is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, et tu brute said: Time will tell and I'll be the first to post if you're ultimately right. It might take another year, but I think we will get a clearer guide on the path the club are following (especially in regards to the stadium). I also think it's only a matter of time before a legal challenge is mounted. As I've said numerous times only time will tell who is right. Aye, we’re both guessing really (not trying to be disrespectful in saying that; just that we don’t know what the owners think). I hope you’re right, believe me - I’d be more than happy if you are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Myleftboot Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 37 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Owning a football club seems like a right ball ache these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 https://x.com/matt_law_dt/status/1767529252004548942?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA Less than ideal if PIF-owned Riyadh Air start sponsoring Chelsea. Rumoured 60m a year is what Chelsea want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Good luck with £60 million with no Champions League football. Edited March 12 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: https://x.com/matt_law_dt/status/1767529252004548942?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA Less than ideal if PIF-owned Riyadh Air start sponsoring Chelsea. Rumoured 60m a year is what Chelsea want You mean the Chelsea with about to be two straight years of no CL football who we finished way ahead of last year and are competing with this year? I look forward to the benchmark for our next deal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 https://x.com/nufc/status/1770374856023970260?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA Glad we’re not too late to the NFT market! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: https://x.com/nufc/status/1770374856023970260?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA Glad we’re not too late to the NFT market! Nah, not fucking interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: https://x.com/nufc/status/1770374856023970260?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA Glad we’re not too late to the NFT market! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Quidds in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Fans: We need more commercial partners! Club: Here's a new commercial partner Fans: NOT THAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL PARTNER!!!!11 Remember though, we only demand a club that tries......right lads? Edited March 20 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 32 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Fans: We need more commercial partners! Club: Here's a new commercial partner Fans: NOT THAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL PARTNER!!!!11 Remember though, we only demand a club that tries......right lads? Aye, but I mean I’m not interested in that stuff myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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