Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: what? That’s absurd. No it’s not. Where do you draw the line with your principles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: And we should never discuss our owners other than who they are buying for us? That's never happened here in all my time supporting the club. Who said that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Nah that’s not straw man. You either get behind this or you never watch top flight football again. The thing to me is that it's not binary. You can support the club and the the takeover and not one bit diminish your ability to criticize the KSA, if you want to. Or not -- and it doesn't mean you support the KSA. Edited October 9, 2021 by B-more Mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Who said that? You seem to be suggesting that we shouldn't talk about this? Or you get behind this or stop going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-more Mag said: The thing to me is that it's not binary. You can support the club and the the takeover and not one bit diminish your ability to criticism the KSA, if you want to. Or not -- and it doesn't mean you support the KSA. He understands this concept and is just on the wind up. I hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 what the fuck? yeah man, citizens of a country, paupers and billionaires alike, are directly responsible for their government's actions simply by dint of geographic birth. totally, equally accountable, sure. Fenway Sports Group is the House of Saud, agreed, strange i never looked at it this way before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Some of you need to look up authoritarianism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Literally stop watching any football, not just us. Where is your line in the sand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, ManDoon said: America do not own us. The people that own Liverpool and Man United are private citizens. They are rich private citizens. Which is true, however there is some evidence that Russian and Chinese citizens, however rich, don't have the same freedom and can only spend their wealth with the agreement, if not behest of their nations rulers. I've posted in the past from Catherine Belton's book on Putin about the Abramovic link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 American owners are a bigger threat to the game than the Saudi Prince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, thomas said: what the fuck? yeah man, citizens of a country, paupers and billionaires alike, are directly responsible for their government's actions simply by dint of geographic birth. totally, equally accountable, sure. Fenway Sports Group is the House of Saud, agreed, strange i never looked at it this way before. Love it when the Sandersistas get bone hard for big Malk Glazer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: He understands this concept and is just on the wind up. I hope. Ah, right. Faulty reading comprehension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Interesting, I will check if out. I don’t by any means think Abramovic is good guy, but people comparing Fenway to Saudis is absurd. They are just rich guys. We are the only ones with a direct link to a Gov hence the news cycle and the discussion. The Abramovic bit is going to court so has obviously touched a nerve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Where is your line in the sand? Where is yours? What if the club start putting out Saudi flags for fans to wave? (as an example) It's almost certain we'll be paraded in friendlies over there. You happy with that? Or what happens if they start pushing for overseas league games in Riyadh? I just don't see this as a binary in or out choice personally. Edited October 9, 2021 by UncleBingo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, UncleBingo said: Where is yours? What if the club start putting out Saudi flags for fans to wave? (as an example) It's almost certain we'll be paraded in friendlies over there. You happy with that? I just don't see this as a binary in or out choice personally. Yes because Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Manure all wave their flags Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Disco said: Love it when the Sandersistas get bone hard for big Malk Glazer I mean they're the kind of banal exploitative evil found throughout our weird somewhat-untethered western capitalism. There's at least the hypothetical possibility of them being reined in with regulations or legislation instead of acting with impunity as rulers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Yes because Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Manure all wave their flags It was a hypothetical question as well you know. Just wanted to see what your line in the sand is? P.s. We had a French day in the past, it's not beyond the realms of possibility to suggest a KSA day could happen. Edited October 9, 2021 by UncleBingo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, thomas said: I mean they're the kind of banal exploitative evil found throughout our weird somewhat-untethered western capitalism. There's at least the hypothetical possibility of them being reined in with regulations or legislation instead of acting with impunity as rulers. That’s absolutely pathetic tbh. The west have fucked a lot of people over and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Trump missed a trick, he should have bought a team. Oh fuck off with that shit you tit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I think ( i hope ) the point TM is making is you also have a choice - if so aggrieved by the Saudi State you can always choose to not have anything to do with NUFC ( at least until they sell us on at some far distant point ) , dont go to games / buy merch and your conscience is clear . You could use your spare time to campaign in some form against them ? Just a suggestion and no im not suggesting you are not allowed to criticise - go right ahead but walk it like you talk it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, UncleBingo said: It was a hypothetical question as well you know. Just wanted to see what your line in the sand is? Very much a hypothetical line in the sand though and folk are well disposed to give answers based on what they like to think they'd do (or would like to be seen to do) as opposed to what they would actually do. Sometime people arent to honest until the situation actually arises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: That’s absolutely pathetic tbh. The west have fucked a lot of people over and more. Who said they hadn't, you dumb bitch? Learn how to read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, UncleBingo said: It was a hypothetical question as well you know. Just wanted to see what your line in the sand is? Mine is either i accept the world is corrupt and I get behind this or I support South Shields Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, thomas said: Who said they hadn't, you dumb bitch? Learn how to read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Mate I’m gonna guess you’ve had a drink. Settle the fuck down Apologies, after 1am here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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