Eddie Howe - Cup Winning NUFC Manager

[Geordie Ahmed]

  On 13/01/2024 at 23:09, wormy said:

Hi guys not been keeping up with the forum tonight. What am I angry at him for this time? Thanks in advance. X

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For not making subs (you'll have to ignore the fact the subs bench was honking)

[Geordie Ahmed]

  On 13/01/2024 at 21:25, duo said:

Personally I think Eddie is twice the coach Pep is.  Pep has managed the best players in the world, managed the best teams in the world, was able to spend the biggest budget in the world.  Surprise he won lots of titles.  Eddie managed a group a players who were fighting relegation season after season and turned them into a Champions League team.  If we had our full squad today we would have won - KDB basically bailed them out.  Was nothing Pep did other than bring him on.

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I love Howe and will defend him against doylems overly criticising him despite the squad being ravaged but Pep is clear of him, absurd to suggest otherwise 

 

Just spending money and having top players isn't automatically a recipe for success

 

It's baffling that we are in 2024 and people still don't realise what an insanely immense coach Pep is

[Kid Icarus]

Imagine how many notifications RUHRLYASLEEVESUP has 

[Izakaya]

  On 13/01/2024 at 21:25, duo said:

Personally I think Eddie is twice the coach Pep is.  Pep has managed the best players in the world, managed the best teams in the world, was able to spend the biggest budget in the world.  Surprise he won lots of titles.  Eddie managed a group a players who were fighting relegation season after season and turned them into a Champions League team.  If we had our full squad today we would have won - KDB basically bailed them out.  Was nothing Pep did other than bring him on.

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This is the other side of the coin here. 

 

Astonishingly mental take. 

[Dr Jinx]

I’ve been very negative on him in the last few weeks but thought tactically we got it spot on first half. We were dangerous on the counter and hurt them repeatedly.

 

Was same old story though second half. No energy and we shrank like we’ve done so much this season. Fitness levels have been poor this season for possibly multiple reasons.

 

If a squad ever needed a holiday away to a warm weather training camp it’s now.

[UncleBingo]

  On 13/01/2024 at 23:39, Kid Icarus said:

Imagine how many notifications RUHRLYASLEEVESUP has 

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He can give himself a slap on the back, epic stuff.

[Geordie Ahmed]

  On 13/01/2024 at 23:54, Dr Jinx said:

I’ve been very negative on him in the last few weeks but thought tactically we got it spot on first half. We were dangerous on the counter and hurt them repeatedly.

 

Was same old story though second half. No energy and we shrank like we’ve done so much this season. Fitness levels have been poor this season for possibly multiple reasons.

 

If a squad ever needed a holiday away to a warm weather training camp it’s now.

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I was surprised we weren't going away to Saudi/Dubai but Howe Howe's explanation for staying and giving the players some time off made sense

[Kid Icarus]

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable.

 

It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us backs him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history goes he's closer than anyone.

 

 

Edited January 14, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[duo]

  On 13/01/2024 at 23:36, Geordie Ahmed said:

I love Howe and will defend him against doylems overly criticising him despite the squad being ravaged but Pep is clear of him, absurd to suggest otherwise 

 

Just spending money and having top players isn't automatically a recipe for success

 

It's baffling that we are in 2024 and people still don't realise what an insanely immense coach Pep is

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I don't deny Peps tactical ability - that's where Eddie has still more to learn.  But as a coach - it's unreal what Eddie has done to this squad.

[TheHoob]

Would be interested to see a link between the support the regime lot and the Eddie out lot. 

 

 

Edited January 14, 2024 by TheHoob
several long island ice teas

[dcmk]

  On 14/01/2024 at 00:08, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable 

 

 

 

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Class this 

[wormy]

  On 13/01/2024 at 23:34, Geordie Ahmed said:

For not making subs (you'll have to ignore the fact the subs bench was honking)

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Oh how 2023.

[Jagten]

For fans of charts, our rolling average expected goals diff has closed. It is very rare to see an averaged xG go limit-up like that. 

 

 

Edited January 14, 2024 by Jagten

[Kanj]

Spot on all game. Done by Kevin De Bruyne. One of the best attacking midfielders in the world. Shut the fuck up. 

[9133818919]

  On 14/01/2024 at 00:08, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable 

 

 

 

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This needs to be a pinned post on this forum. Well said.

[BShearer]

this season is a bit of a reality check for Howe but also for the club in terms of if we want to be a PL/CL force what we need to improve on an look out for.

 

all the injuries, the sick schedule increase, the group of death CL draw, the horrific Carabao draw.

these can be excuses but then excuses wont get us to be a PL/CL force.

we need to improve on these and learn from them a lot and also on the transfers which were generally quite on the hit since takeover until the summer window. this time tho the way it turned out this was a mediocre window in hindsight which helped us not much really apart from the few good games Livramento had.

 

 

 

[Jagten]

  On 14/01/2024 at 01:09, Jagten said:

For fans of charts, our rolling average expected goals diff has closed. It is very rare to see an averaged xG go limit-up like that. 

 

 

 

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Some interesting analysis on what is now probably the most porous defense in the league here

 

 https://x.com/jon_mackenzie/status/1746354228828766487?s=46 

[FLUMPO235]

For me, delia smith is a good cook, but if there is fuck all in the fridge that doesn’t suddenly make her a bad one. 
 

Mind you, I made a delia recipe cake once, Didn’t work properly, I don’t think the recipe was right. So, like Eddie, no one’s perfect or beyond criticism. 
 

Jeez, need some sleep. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

  On 14/01/2024 at 00:08, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable.

 

It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone.

 

 

 

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Very well said. A few people are just perpetually pessimistic for the sake of it.

[astraguy]

  On 13/01/2024 at 22:55, UncleBingo said:

This.

 

Be careful what you wish for.

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Love him

[Groundhog63]

  On 14/01/2024 at 00:08, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable.

 

It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone.

 

 

 

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This, with fucking bells on

 

 

  On 14/01/2024 at 01:13, imChris said:

This needs to be a pinned post on this forum. Well said.

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Tattooed on some cunts ample forehead, more like ?

[Pancrate1892]

  On 14/01/2024 at 03:27, FLUMPO235 said:

For me, delia smith is a good cook, but if there is fuck all in the fridge that doesn’t suddenly make her a bad one. 
 

Mind you, I made a delia recipe cake once, Didn’t work properly, I don’t think the recipe was right. So, like Eddie, no one’s perfect or beyond criticism. 
 

Jeez, need some sleep. 

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Also...sometimes the fridge is broken, or when she's trying to cook there's also a madman in the kitchen with a knife

[High Five o]

  On 14/01/2024 at 00:08, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable.

 

It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone.

 

 

 

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Print it out and hang it in Louvre.

Spot on mate!

[ExiledGeordie]

  On 14/01/2024 at 00:08, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable.

 

It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone.

 

 

 

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Absolutely spot on 

[AJ9]

  On 14/01/2024 at 00:08, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who:

 

Survived serious relegation threat at a canter

 

Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction.

 

Has us playing attacking, exciting football

 

Has improved every player we have without exception 

 

Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp.

 

And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because:

 

Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase

 

We're 10th

 

We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of

 

We've had a sticky patch

 

Even though: 

 

We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over

 

Our big summer signing is banned

 

The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor

 

We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season.

 

Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism'

 

If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago  and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances.

 

How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable.

 

It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone.

 

 

 

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 Yes!