Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

[AyeDubbleYoo]

The midfield issues are caused by being so bad at retaining the ball as well. Killer in a team which wants to flood forward quickly. 

[Maggies]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

Yeah it's good. All the sort of questions and answers you'd expect like, but good nonetheless 

Main take away from me is that PIF’s intention remains for us to be #1 and win the lot, but with an acceptance due to PSR that’s a longer term goal now.

[KaKa]

I'm hoping Bruno further forward will be our low block buster.

 

Adding in a right winger with some guile and nous, or at the very least quality to get to the byline and provide dangerous cutbacks will help too.

[KaKa]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The midfield issues are caused by being so bad at retaining the ball as well. Killer in a team which wants to flood forward quickly. 

 

I think it will get better once these three settle in and get more familiar with the current setup.

 

Joelinton will still have his moments where he may be a bit loose with the ball, but we should be better protected with Tonali deeper now. I think once we get a quality right winger in the team that will also help, so we are not also compromised in that position too, like we were with Murphy against Liverpool.

 

I'd actually like to see Joelinton encouraged to get further forward and not be as involved in the initial build up closer to our goal. Let Tonali and Bruno deal with that, and down the left Hall can also take on those responsibilities (inverting at times if need be). That will help avoid a lot of those dangerous turnovers.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by KaKa

[Scoot]

Slightly contradicts his comments about him and the club having hugely ambitious plans.

[Kanj]

14 minutes ago, Scoot said:

Slightly contradicts his comments about him and the club having hugely ambitious plans.

 

You should watch the full interview then. 

[Kanj]

37 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

I think it will get better once these three settle in and get more familiar with the current setup.

 

Joelinton will still have his moments where he may be a bit loose with the ball, but we should be better protected with Tonali deeper now. I think once we get a quality right winger in the team that will also help, so we are not also compromised in that position too, like we were with Murphy against Liverpool.

 

I'd actually like to see Joelinton encouraged to get further forward and not be as involved in the initial build up closer to our goal. Let Tonali and Bruno deal with that, and down the left Hall can also take on those responsibilities (inverting at times if need be). That will help avoid a lot of those dangerous turnovers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

for this season at least, this where I'd rotate Willock/Joelinton situationally based on the opposition. If we are in need of breaking a team down, then you play Willock. If we are playing a bit of 50/50 game then you play Joelinton, leaning towards either based on fitness and overall game plan. Eventually getting someone who is the next version of Cunha or Szob to play that LCM role with ball carrying, engine, and ball playing/attacking threat would be ideal. 

[KaKa]

21 minutes ago, Kanj said:

 

for this season at least, this where I'd rotate Willock/Joelinton situationally based on the opposition. If we are in need of breaking a team down, then you play Willock. If we are playing a bit of 50/50 game then you play Joelinton, leaning towards either based on fitness and overall game plan. Eventually getting someone who is the next version of Cunha or Szob to play that LCM role with ball carrying, engine, and ball playing/attacking threat would be ideal. 

 

Yeah, it's not a bad shout. Especially while we don't have a quality option at right wing to create more threat.

 

Once we do upgrade that right wing spot, Joelinton's deficiencies won't be as much of an issue. And we can just let him be the midfield enforcer he is.

 

Willock will really need to be productive in those moments he starts though, because he is too inconsistent. We lose a lot of energy, physicality, ball winning, and set piece help in both boxes, if we're subbing in Willock for Joelinton. He'd really have to make it worthwhile.

 

Personally, I'd probably just have Willock come on as an early sub, if we need some extra threat rather than have him outright alternate as a starter with big Joe.

[Scoot]

32 minutes ago, Kanj said:

 

You should watch the full interview then. 

 

I have. Have I missed something?

[Kanj]

22 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

I have. Have I missed something?

 

You did. He point blank said that is the long term ambition. 

[Scoot]

5 minutes ago, Kanj said:

 

You did. He point blank said that is the long term ambition. 

 

Top consistently compete with the big 6?

 

I was possibly on my phone when he said that. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

IIRC the second bit of the quote and the ‘unbelievable things’ is about winning the league and trophies etc, achieving the lofty ambitions that Staveley set. 
 

He also said that everything she said is still the ultimate ambition. It’s just more difficult because of the rules. 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

 Unfortunately, it’s just life as a Newcastle fan. I’m pretty sure if the rules were changed to allow us to compete  it will be the season after we’ve been taken over by poor owners. 

[Kanj]

4 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, it's not a bad shout. Especially while we don't have a quality option at right wing to create more threat.

 

Once we do upgrade that right wing spot, Joelinton's deficiencies won't be as much of an issue. And we can just let him be the midfield enforcer he is.

 

Willock will really need to be productive in those moments he starts though, because he is too inconsistent. We lose a lot of energy, physicality, ball winning, and set piece help in both boxes, if we're subbing in Willock for Joelinton. He'd really have to make it worthwhile.

 

Personally, I'd probably just have Willock come on as an early sub, if we need some extra threat rather than have him outright alternate as a starter with big Joe.

 

Yeah it's a bit funky really - i was hoping the Willock LCM, Tonali CM, Bruno RCM with Joelinton RW would work too (and maybe it still can) in the mean time. 

 

But again, if we're in the major countering and not playing a Liverpool -- Willock as LCM makes a whole lot of sense and as much as it does if we need to break a team down. Maybe you have to play Barnes as RW and get him to do his quick give & go and roam him around the box to find space to create a shot too? To your point much better when we get a starting top quality RW.

 

I also agree that Joelinton is perfect for matches we need his energy, box to box enforcing, etc. He's also a very good dribbler with the ball when he gets a head of steam and want to see him doing that more. If he's afforded space, take the space...just release the ball with more pace (he underhits a lot of passes!) 

[SEMTEX]

Just now, Kanj said:

 

Yeah it's a bit funky really - i was hoping the Willock LCM, Tonali CM, Bruno RCM with Joelinton RW would work too (and maybe it still can) in the mean time. 

 

But again, if we're in the major countering and not playing a Liverpool -- Willock as LCM makes a whole lot of sense and as much as it does if we need to break a team down. Maybe you have to play Barnes as RW and get him to do his quick give & go and roam him around the box to find space to create a shot too? To your point much better when we get a starting top quality RW.

 

I also agree that Joelinton is perfect for matches we need his energy, box to box enforcing, etc. He's also a very good dribbler with the ball when he gets a head of steam and want to see him doing that more. If he's afforded space, take the space...just release the ball with more pace (he underhits a lot of passes!) 

 

WWYPU

[Ronaldo]

Though I still lean towards it ending badly, I really really want Eddie to be a success here as he’s a good man, works very hard and is such a terrific ambassador for the club. He deserves it. 

[Dr Venkman]

14 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

Though I still lean towards it ending badly, I really really want Eddie to be a success here as he’s a good man, works very hard and is such a terrific ambassador for the club. He deserves it. 

How do you define ‘ending badly?’

[Collage]

Even with the money we've got, it's not possible for us to attract the very best players in the world but what we can do is get those players who are capable of making a difference against any team in the PL/Europe but maybe not do it consistently enough to be considered world class players and therefore not be targets for the Real Madrids and the Man Cities. We've had plenty of those players in the past; take Bellamy for example. No one would describe him as one of the best forwards in the world but there and then under the guidance of Sir Bobby he could make a difference against any team. Ben Arfa was such a player; his capabilty, ceiling or whatever was just as good as say, Eden Hazard, but not as consistently for different reasons. For this, Eddie, like SBR or Keeagan, is the right manager.

Our recruitment needs to be bang on target; build a squad consisting of such players AND solid, consistent performers rather than players like Murphy and Longstaff who are neither, and we should be able to win cups if not league titles.

I think we're on the right path with signings like Botman, Hall, Livra, Bruno, Tonali, Isak, Gordon but there's still some way to go and I suspect we need an astute tactician by Eddie's side rather than Jason Tindall. That won't happen though and Eddie wanting full control is a concern. He's great at getting the best out of players but is he great at the getting the best out of the team/squad? It has not looked that way for a while.

[Jackie Broon]

15 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

Though I still lean towards it ending badly, I really really want Eddie to be a success here as he’s a good man, works very hard and is such a terrific ambassador for the club. He deserves it. 

 

Since the only managers I can think of that it hasn't really ended badly for in the history of the Premier League are probably Ferguson and Klopp, that's a pretty safe bet.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Jackie Broon

[Dokko]

Would anyone bring in Tony Pulis specifically as a set penis coach?

[Pilko]

8 minutes ago, Dokko said:

Would anyone bring in Tony Pulis specifically as a set penis coach?

 

I'd bring someone in for certain, he might be as good as any tbf. What we do at the moment isn't effective enough.

[Maggies]

Longstaff and Murphy start.

 

He really doesn’t help himself at times… I look forward to the triple sub on 60 minutes

 

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Maggies

[Robster]

19 minutes ago, Maggies said:

Longstaff and Murphy start.

 

He really doesn’t help himself at times… I look forward to the triple sub on 60 minutes

 

 

 

Heavy fixture list in December.

[La Parka]

[Pilko]

Raising our game for the big teams and then producing this defensively shocking shit show away at fucking Brentford, man. There's a serious issue with the mentality and/or motivation of these players.