Eddie Howe

[jigen]

You are good team. But one-dimensional: very physical and aggressive, but lack creativity. 

 

You could buy for example Cherky or Akliouche: two young and talented Rw with great skills. But Howe wants PL players, so yours targets are very limited. 

[Big River]

2 minutes ago, jigen said:

You are good team. But one-dimensional: very physical and aggressive, but lack creativity. 

 

You could buy for example Cherky or Akliouche: two young and talented Rw with great skills. But Howe wants PL players, so yours targets are very limited. 

 

change the record you bore

[Gallowgate Toon]

Trippier was a huge reason why Bruno playing deeper was less of an issue than it is now, he was such a good playmaker and basically ran the entire right hand side. He's not the future though and we need to adapt - Tino brings a different skillset and is a developing player. Free Bruno!

[80]

The day we do start getting linked with Eddie replacements will be interesting as in the modern environment, there's a solid chance most of us won't have heard of them. It would almost be a positive indicator re: Mitchell if we hadn't, in fact.

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, JEToon said:

That sounds great but, I’m not convinced it’s really probable 

 

90 million over 7+ player, wages, signing on feee, agent fees by the time the cash is spread I would expect a few of them to fail rather than all be a great success 

 

We were and are a club trying to raise our ceiling not our floor, the logic of Tonali and Barnes made complete sense over a raft of squad players. 

 

 

 

Few would fail, but that’s the risk you take with £5m low buys, as it’s small costs where you likely get some fee back. Mixed in with some 15m buys etc.

 

Don’t doubt we need to raise ceiling, but if money is restricted and giving impact of Barnes / Tonali, and our pursuit of Guehi, then going other way is a valid route. Hall cost a lot, but he didn’t raise ceiling to start off with, but now has smashed it.
 

Think we will go this route anyway, as we can’t drop £60m+ on a player anymore till revenues increase, or it’s restricting us moving forward. 

[Sibierski]

33 minutes ago, Smal said:

would be harsh on Livramento after some decent performances recently but same tbh. Livramento needs to massively improve on his delivery if he wants to be anywhere near as important to us as Trippier was.

 

If he can get some confidence back in his game he’s still a huge asset on the pitch for the rest of this season imo.

Problem with Trippier, he’s legs are so done. If he was having to deal with Summerville one on one a lot like Tino was, he’d have been carded early on and then stood off him, allowing him to easily get to the byline. Can’t remember many moments in that game Tino allowed his winger to get a cross in easily.

[Smal]

Just now, Sibierski said:

Problem with Trippier, he’s legs are so done. If he was having to deal with Summerville one on one a lot like Tino was, he’d have been carded early on and then stood off him, allowing him to easily get to the byline. Can’t remember many moments in that game Tino allowed his winger to get a cross in easily.

I don’t think it’s quite as bad as that. He actually played well for England at the Euros given he was stuck in at left back. Looked decent physically, especially considering he was just coming back from injury. Probably don’t want him playing 2 games a week or anything but I think he’s fine for this season.

[Sempiternal]

They’ll not sign Cherki due to his personality. Not that I would be against it 

[joeyt]

29 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Trippier was a huge reason why Bruno playing deeper was less of an issue than it is now, he was such a good playmaker and basically ran the entire right hand side. He's not the future though and we need to adapt - Tino brings a different skillset and is a developing player. Free Bruno!

 

We've done well recently with Tonali coming off the bench and playing as the deepest centre mid and allowing Bruno to play slightly higher up as the game has gone on.

 

Thought we'd see that yesterday but we just went a flat 2 of Bruno and Tonali and it was suicide

[Shearergol]

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

 

We've done well recently with Tonali coming off the bench and playing as the deepest centre mid and allowing Bruno to play slightly higher up as the game has gone on.

 

Thought we'd see that yesterday but we just went a flat 2 of Bruno and Tonali and it was suicide

4-4-2 was a ridiculous decision, which I'm pretty certain 99% of our fans knew it would be.

[JEToon]

33 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Few would fail, but that’s the risk you take with £5m low buys, as it’s small costs where you likely get some fee back. Mixed in with some 15m buys etc.

 

Don’t doubt we need to raise ceiling, but if money is restricted and giving impact of Barnes / Tonali, and our pursuit of Guehi, then going other way is a valid route. Hall cost a lot, but he didn’t raise ceiling to start off with, but now has smashed it.
 

Think we will go this route anyway, as we can’t drop £60m+ on a player anymore till revenues increase, or it’s restricting us moving forward. 

 

I would highly doubt we ever regularly shop in the 5 million pounds market personally.

 

As someone who watches a fair bit of Scottish football, the 5 million pound market isn’t a great one, that’s not far removed from where Rangers and Celtic often shop and the notion a lot of those players are close to being what we need is absolutely removed from reality or sustainable

 

If we don’t often add quality like Tonali and Barnes we are going to be left behind, we are looking to thread the needle and catch teams like Arsenal and Villa not regress to a become a trading club.

 

I think the theory of what you are putting forward sounds like it is riddled with failure and poor football players personally, it the market was as easy to exploit as you are implying I would expect more clubs to do it, it's closer to an Ashley trading model 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by JEToon

[Sibierski]

8 minutes ago, JEToon said:

 

I would highly doubt we ever regularly shop in the 5 million pounds market personally.

 

As someone who watches a fair bit of Scottish football, the 5 million pound market isn’t a great one, that’s not far removed from where Rangers and Celtic often shop and the notion a lot of those players are close to being what we need is absolutely removed from reality or sustainable

 

If we don’t often add quality like Tonali and Barnes we are going to be left behind, we are looking to thread the needle and catch teams like Arsenal and Villa not regress to a become a trading club.

 

I think the theory of what you are putting forward sounds like it is riddled with failure and poor football players personally.  

 

 

 

That’s where you expect the scouting team to earn their money and stripes, with more Minteh picked up rather others. 
 

Like Kuol are the proper cheap ones <£1m. The other ranges talked about here, are upwards your Rowe who moved this summer and in between. Huge market there which you pin on your coaching setup to make the most out of on the training ground. 

[Sibierski]

Like we need to replace several players this summer, need a refresh, that’s not going to be addressed by a Guehi who can raise the bar, as it then means needing to keep around declining players or run a very small squad because Trippier / Lascelles / Wilson / Almiron shouldn’t be here start of next season, and then Murphy / Targett you don’t anymore, and potentially need to move on one of the CMs to refresh it there. 
 

Got to operate in the lower youth market to balance all that out instead of one major signing.

[JEToon]

4 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

That’s where you expect the scouting team to earn their money and stripes, with more Minteh picked up rather others. 
 

Like Kuol are the proper cheap ones <£1m. The other ranges talked about here, are upwards your Rowe who moved this summer and in between. Huge market there which you pin on your coaching setup to make the most out of on the training ground. 

 

I am all for smart, innovative clever scouting and excellent coaching but I think what you are asking is unrealistic in all honesty, it sounds amazing on a forum, wow what a fantastic soundbite idea, but in reality....nah I can't see that as a model at all myself 

 

A couple of smart additions of a younger profile each summer, sure, 7 squad players for 90 million, slight bit of fantasy in that to me 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by JEToon

[Alberto2005]

Howe mentioned how the substitues didn't effect the game, but I actually think that was mainly Howe's fault for the system change.

[Sempiternal]

19 minutes ago, JEToon said:

 

I would highly doubt we ever regularly shop in the 5 million pounds market personally.

 

As someone who watches a fair bit of Scottish football, the 5 million pound market isn’t a great one, that’s not far removed from where Rangers and Celtic often shop and the notion a lot of those players are close to being what we need is absolutely removed from reality or sustainable

 

If we don’t often add quality like Tonali and Barnes we are going to be left behind, we are looking to thread the needle and catch teams like Arsenal and Villa not regress to a become a trading club.

 

I think the theory of what you are putting forward sounds like it is riddled with failure and poor football players personally, it the market was as easy to exploit as you are implying I would expect more clubs to do it, it's closer to an Ashley trading model 

 

 

 

O Reilly would have been a good signing for us imo 

[joeyt]

4 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

Howe mentioned how the substitues didn't effect the game, but I actually think that was mainly Howe's fault for the system change.

 

It looked to me like Murphy was given the instruction to just cross the ball into the box at every opportunity.

[The College Dropout]

We need more from Tino. And Howe needs more from that right flank.

[Keggy_Keagal]

I'm not saying I want a change of manager but Eddie needs to sort this out sharpish . Far too many games when we look absolutely clueless as to how break a team down and he just starts chucking subs at it. His read on trying to get us back into last night's match was way way off. This season Fulham, Wimbledon , Everton, Brighton and now West Ham have come away with decent results because we've not created or taken enough decent chances. Howe in the past has shown he's learned from his mistakes but this is a long standing problem that hasn't been solved or addressed. It's the arse end of November and we're coming into a key stage of the season. Eddie doesn't know his best 11. Still thinks Murphy can contribute something despite all evidence to the contrary. Hasn't been able to integrate Barnes and Tonali into the team and can't seem to get Gordon firing again, still crap on set plays and we're still very vulnerable through the middle on counters. Same problems lead to some of the same disappointing results. I'm hardly the most militant of supporters but it's starting to look like he doesn't know how to sort it and keeps doing the same things hoping players click and find form.  

[SUPERTOON]

2 hours ago, Yorkie said:

I still can't entertain any notion of replacing the manager, not least because I feel like the pool of people who would represent an improvement is incredibly small.

 

There some concerning signs for sure this season, but I still think we look a good team on the whole, and the identity of the side is still recognisable: we're still a team which is set up to press and create lots of chances. The biggest issue all season has been that we haven't been clinical enough; that's a recipe for dropped points when every opponent apart from Southampton has a lot of quality. 

 

As long as the players still believe in the manager's ideas then we shouldn't even be considering changing. We've had two great seasons on the bounce (bollocks to you if you think last season wasn't class) so he's earned the right to find the solutions, or keep at plan A until it works. 

 

And like I keep saying, it's a season that could be defined by the cups. It would be heartbreaking if he wasn't at least given another shot at the Carabao Cup.

Your first sentence is the key here. Absolutely no one realistically out there we could get even if we did need to make a change.

[HaydnNUFC]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Your first sentence is the key here. Absolutely no one realistically out there we could get even if we did need to make a change.

 

You'd probably be looking at foreign managers that are out of work. Potter would be a sideways step at best. If and when we replace Howe it has to be an upgrade/elite but I couldn't give you any names that are that without a load of research into it.

[KaKa]

Considering when Bruno joined he was played further forward, and was much more influential as far as scoring and assisting, I just don't understand why we don't do that more when the team is struggling to be more incisive.

 

Very very disappointing.

[TRC]

8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Your first sentence is the key here. Absolutely no one realistically out there we could get even if we did need to make a change.

Concecaio?

[TRC]

Just now, KaKa said:

Considering when Bruno joined he was played further forward, and was much more influential as far as scoring and assisting, I just don't understand why we don't do that more when the team is struggling to be more incisive.

 

Very very disappointing.

This feels like the answer

[SUPERTOON]

6 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

You'd probably be looking at foreign managers that are out of work. Potter would be a sideways step at best. If and when we replace Howe it has to be an upgrade/elite but I couldn't give you any names that are that without a load of research into it.

Aye, I’ll be honest I wouldn’t trust the club to go out and get an elite manager tbh.