RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: Well they are idiots and anyone who takes any credence in their views are idiots too. So work back from there and you shouldn’t have a problem going forward assessing the current team. Don't think you realise @MrRaspberryJam is my mate do you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Thinks most of us thought we were an elite team after this summers recruitment, pre-season and first game against Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, Froggy said: I'm fairly sure if we had the fixtures you did to start the season we'd have 1 point. Tbf you should only have 2 points from the fixtures you've had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ben said: I think De Zerbi is a very special manager in the same mould as Pep, West Ham showed the best way to beat them is to just sit back and catch them on the break and even then you need to be very lucky. I think they finish top 4 this season and then a big club takes De Zerbi. I think we played into their hands with our style yesterday and we still haven't clicked as a team yet with to many players off form, we'll be fine after the internationals. I'm not so sure. Seems like the way we (both teams) currently set up, lead to these sort of results. Both teams gamble on their identity and its hard to change. At our place our press won and we could've had more than 4. Yesterday we could have been 2 or 3 up in 10mins and in the end Couldnt argue with being well beaten by "only 2". Things evolve and the best managers do that. It'll be interesting to see how Eddie's pans out. One thing's for certain, it won't be overnight, it'll be piece by piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Don't think you realise @MrRaspberryJam is my mate do you ? We are an elite team and we’re an elite set of fans off the pitch. We are trained warriors and we are not to be fucked about with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Tbf you should only have 2 points from the fixtures you've had. Nah, 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: We are an elite team and we’re an elite set of fans off the pitch. We are trained warriors and we are not to be fucked about with. Not so chippy now is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Displayname said: Thinks most of us thought we were an elite team after this summers recruitment, pre-season and first game against Villa. Absolutely no one I know who goes to the match with me or I speak to regularly on and away from here think we are an elite team. No one. So not sure where you get “most of us” from but it sounds like you are including yourself. Let me break it to you gently. We are not and never have been an elite team. We are a good team and occasionally we can be very good which we proved 22/23. This however is the very beginnings of a new phase so we don’t know what we are yet 23/24 but hopefully time will show we have progressed. As it stands we haven’t. Let’s see where we are come January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Absolutely no one I know who goes to the match with me or I speak to regularly on and away from here think we are an elite team. No one. So not sure where you get “most of us” from but it sounds like you are including yourself. Let me break it to you gently. We are not and never have been an elite team. We are a good team and occasionally we can be very good which we proved 22/23. This however is the very beginnings of a new phase so we don’t know what we are yet 23/24 but hopefully time will show we have progressed. As it stands we haven’t. Let’s see where we are come January. I dont think we are now, but admit i got caught up in the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) We've shown so far this season that we're still not at City and Liverpool's level (although for 60 minutes we were against Liverpool), and that if we're not on it or if the tactics are a bit off, we can still get a hiding against one of the 6-8th placed teams (like Villa). If win the next 3 I'll still be confident we can repeat last year. If we win say 2 of them, top 5 might be a challenge but no reason we still can't do well and consolidate as a top 6-7 team. Edited September 3, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, Displayname said: I dont think we are now, but admit i got caught up in the moment. If there’s one thing I’ve learned as I approach one month short of following NUFC for 40 years is never get too high when things are going well but make sure you do enjoy those times as much as you can and never get too low when going through a bad spell. This is just the second full season of hopefully the biggest rebirth of our or any football club has witnessed. Try and enjoy it and don’t get too low about the bumps in the road along the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Our form started to tail off towards the end of last season. And we've not really picked up this season either. It is not the results I am concerned about atm it's how we are playing. And we haven't been at our best for a while. That is what concerns me the most. Our system just needs a total rethink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) Is "elite" the new "world class" where we chuck teams and players into a category based on our own subjective metrics? We're a very well coached side, with a few very good players and a few passable players. We lack quality depth, but as time goes on the squad will continue to get stronger. We've punched well above our weight for two seasons now thanks to Howe and his staff. Whenever we've hit a poor run of form we've always turned it round, which also tells you how healthy the mentality of the squad is and Howe is always looking to tweak. It is interesting how streaky our form is since he took over though. Edited September 3, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, LFEE said: If there’s one thing I’ve learned as I approach one month short of following NUFC for 40 years is never get too high when things are going well but make sure you do enjoy those times as much as you can and never get too low when going through a bad spell. This is just the second full season of hopefully the biggest rebirth of our or any football club has witnessed. Try and enjoy it and don’t get too low about the bumps in the road along the way. That’s my philosophy on life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Chelsea got beat by forest yesterday, worse result than ours if you ask me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, LFEE said: If there’s one thing I’ve learned as I approach one month short of following NUFC for 40 years is never get too high when things are going well but make sure you do enjoy those times as much as you can and never get too low when going through a bad spell. This is just the second full season of hopefully the biggest rebirth of our or any football club has witnessed. Try and enjoy it and don’t get too low about the bumps in the road along the way. It was never going to be a linear path to success. There will be worse bumps in that road than three losses in a row, one a narrow defeat to the reigning treble holders. Edited September 3, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 players seem so mentally fragile compared to last season. also i think the poster in the other thread nailed it. "This season is not a reward to last year's team, it's a new season. Earn it! Maybe all the Champions League and Amazon talk, and a few have dropped their levels." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, LFEE said: If there’s one thing I’ve learned as I approach one month short of following NUFC for 40 years is never get too high when things are going well but make sure you do enjoy those times as much as you can and never get too low when going through a bad spell. This is just the second full season of hopefully the biggest rebirth of our or any football club has witnessed. Try and enjoy it and don’t get too low about the bumps in the road along the way. 100% agree with this - it's easy to get carried away when we beat Villa 5 1, likewise it's easy to go into meltdown when we get beat at Brighton and yes played shit. I'm sticking with Eddie. I had a feeling this season was going to be tougher. The bottom line is if the bad results/performances continue then at some point Eddie will be toast, it's just the nature of elite level sport. However, got to trust the manager and the players, and get behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 100% behind wor gaffer, even if he is making some mistakes. It's been such a 9/10 (minimum) performance from him for so long, he was always going to have a dip. Let's back him through this rough period and we'll all be better off for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 If you look at last season after a bad run we when on long unbeaten streaks, sure we even lost 3 in a row and then started winning constantly. Gonna keep positive and hope happens this time as yesterday was trash from start to finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I'm confident that the last 3 games will be the equivalent of the Liverpool, Man Utd (cup final), City games last season. Eddie to mix things up and give them a kick up the backside and we'll make the most of the more winnable fixtures coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Last big test for Eddie imo was the slump of form we had around the cup final, and he turned it around and got us into the CL. Every faith he'll turn this around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 It’s till worth remembering, although it is 3 defeats in a row, one of them was away to the treble winners who have won 18 games in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I hate to agree with Hope, as hes usually a bell end lol, but I do agree with his points in his latest video, it wasnt the defeat that was the problem yesterday, it was the manner of it. Last seasons successes were built upon a foundation of togetherness and the sum of the parts being greater - this is beginning to look like it is not the same this season, and im not as of yet sure why. Bruno is not playing well, Pope devoid of all confidence. The fabled best defence in the league can't buy a clean sheet, and without Botman looks frail and sluggish at best. Trippier isn't attacking probably as a result of the Defence being weak and the midfield are not holding the ball, pressing well or creating anything. Its very worrying, and it is vital that they start to work harder for each other again, too many sloppy mistakes or half-arsed plays yesterday for this early in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 The only thing Hope is wrong about is that Bruno/Tonali can't play together. It's far too early to say anything like that but it's also a strange point. They're not similar players and they play in a 3. Why isn't he saying Tonali can't play with Joelinton? He mentioned this after the 352 experiment in preseason and has now raised it again as a convenient controversial talking point for his rag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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